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Fix Side Chain Delay Compensation NOW please!
Hello Avid.
Its a disgrace that side chains aren't delay compensated in Pro Tools (and HD) Native. This is made much worse by the fact that youv'e chosen to include a side chain feature but not tell anyone that its not delay compensated. I wonder what use you think anyone has for a compressor thats being triggered out of time with the song!? Im calling on you to fix this issue immediately, or to provide a good technical reason why it cant be fixed (I cant think of one but maybe you can enlighten us). Or failing this, delete the feature entirely so people aren't unknowingly using out of time side chaining, and wasting countless hours wondering why it sounds bad. All of the other features and upgrades pale into insignificance compared to this issue, and it should be your first and only concern until it is fixed. Otherwise, you could considering dropping the 'Pro' from your software's name. With sincerity and hope for a speedy resolution, Matt Redlich |
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Re: Fix Side Chain Delay Compensation NOW please!
Yes please fix this - I'm trying to make sick EDM / live my life as an engineer and this is making that unnecessarily hard.
Stop being weird, update PT so I can use this elementary feature or I'll buy Ableton just like Kanye's producer did. Your's faithfully, AL |
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Re: Fix Side Chain Delay Compensation NOW please!
Please either fix this ASAP or re market it as a random time offset.
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Re: Fix Side Chain Delay Compensation NOW please!
The long overdue of delay comp within side-chaining would [finally] bring PT in line with other DAWS. Huge oversight for such a common part of modern mixing practice
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Re: Fix Side Chain Delay Compensation NOW please!
100% in support of this for a few reasons.
It's 2017 and like it or not there is an incredibly high amount of music that utilises sidechain processing for creative purposes, this isn't just some nerdy process anymore. For a software of this calibre, prestige (errr industry standard) and age it's completely unreasonable that a fairly techincal workaround is required. I've researched high and low for workarounds and nothing sticks and or is too complicated. Just to give dear readers an indication of my tedious workaround - a typical pop session that I get that has synths, basses, keyboards, guitars etc quite often utilises sidechaining for effect. Quite often the amount of GR may vary from instrument to instrument so grouping these into one aux etc won't always work. Don't get me started on then throwing additional time based effects. In this scenario I duplicate the sidechain file with no processing on it and I will then assign it to a bus(es) to trigger the compressor. I will then enable the "listen to sidechain" button on the compressor of the channel I'm ducking, THEN set up a new audio track to print through. I highlight the delay amount between the source trigger file and the newly printed file to determine the latency and then adjust the original trigger file accordingly. Multiply this process by a few instances if I would like to compress certain instruments differently. Sounds great, right? To be a further pain the ass, this delay amount will change the instant you throw on a new plugin on a certain track, change its routing or even sometimes just when you reopen the session later. Oh yeah ProTools has a tendency to crash multiple times a day, so that's always fun when that one happens. And yes I've tried numerous other workarounds and they all suck in their own way and ultimately shouldn't be necessary. T |
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Re: Fix Side Chain Delay Compensation NOW please!
Agoraphobia has the workaround. I have been duplicating the "trigger/key" track and then nudging it to get it to the timing right for many years. Unfortunate to have to do this, but it works.
Greg
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Re: Fix Side Chain Delay Compensation NOW please!
link to ideascale?
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Re: Fix Side Chain Delay Compensation NOW please!
Link to Avid giving a rats backside?
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Re: Fix Side Chain Delay Compensation NOW please!
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Re: Fix Side Chain Delay Compensation NOW please!
and why is this a reason not to complain about it? id have though its a reason to complain MORE.
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