$5000 for a new HDX system

[Diccer]

Yes, $5000
Should be about the price of a new HDX system when considering the whole sale price for it's ti/tigersharc/motorola processor chips, development costs, and the manufacturing of the card itself, and that it's a given that more necessary items will be purchased by the customer for the system.

But instead it is $10,000 -Even in this Economy!

And that makes for quite a profit
Only 2 times the price. Only 3 times the price of a Mac Pro Westmere
Can someone explain why?
And if the explanation is the extra power, well then why was the previous accel core (system) $10,000 new, and so on, and so forth

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[Emcha_audio]

So let me try to get your logic straight here a moment. You're not happy that a system that is more powerful(as tested by the beta testers but yet to be seen in actual in market action) than a hd3 accel system?

1 HDx card offers 256 voices per card , 2x more I/O per card, 64 bit ready, 4x time more adc (16k), the ability to connect 4 HD series interface per card.
Compared to 1 hd accel card offered max of 96 voice, max of 32 I/0, not 64 bit ready, 4k adc, could only connect up to 32 channels so 2 192 I/O max.

Ye's it has T1 chips so? clocked at 350mhz compared to the old accel cards (motorola 56k at 220 mhz).

So let's reiterate. You're not happy that for 9999.99 you would get an hdx card+HDI/O omni brand new, for the same price of one brand new 8 years old outdated and less powerful technology core card+interface? Forget ebay for a moment, and compare new to new.

To put it in an other kind of example, you would not be happy with getting a 1300 cc harley vs your old Vespa for the same price?

See, I'm not saying that every one should jump on it, if it's not suited for them fine, but I'm trying to see the logic of your post.

What i'd like to know though is if the t1 is a typo or meant to be TI 350 mhz dsp chips? Max, dts? Could you confirm it's t1 or TI?

I know the 11 rack has TI (texas instruments) TMS320C6727BZDH DSP chips in them, so it would seem logical that they would have went with the same manufacturer for the HDX cards.

[AxeDye]

I disagree prices are decided by products demand. Also considering it is cheaper than an HD3 accel brand new is nice. Also it only takes up one pcie slot.

[nst7]

I wonder if people sit around and look up all the parts of a Mercedes to try to figure out what it should cost.

[edadema]

Originally Posted by nst7

I wonder if people sit around and look up all the parts of a Mercedes to try to figure out what it should cost.

Your a bright one..... The car industry is a big rip off too. No one buys a car out of pocket, they get loans and if people did buy cars out of pocket how many people would put up a years salary for a car. We need to fix that industry too.

[Dism]

Originally Posted by edadema

Your a bright one..... The car industry is a big rip off too. No one buys a car out of pocket, they get loans and if people did buy cars out of pocket how many people would put up a years salary for a car. We need to fix that industry too.

I agree somewhat. Some cars are certainly worth the premium... but we already know that industry is far from infallible.

There are also plenty of people who spend beyond their means on a nice car because of the status symbol, over anything else. Which is why I never buy a car brand new. To pay full price for something that will be worth far less as soon as you drive it off the lot is ridiculous. If people participated in this sentiment, car prices will come down. Some cars should certainly be more affordable than they are, but as with many things, often you get what you pay for.

[Emcha_audio]

Originally Posted by edadema

Your a bright one..... The car industry is a big rip off too. No one buys a car out of pocket, they get loans and if people did buy cars out of pocket how many people would put up a years salary for a car. We need to fix that industry too.

In some part I agree, but that's mostly due because people do not want to buy used cars, or not a lot of people does. A friend of mine who's a video editor, bought his car for 9 thousand (without a loan) 5 years old car upon purchase, but in a1 condition. He hasn't have to put a dime on repairs, beside the usual tires and oil changes, and he's had it for 5 years now. SO if more people would actually take the time to do this, less people would have to take out loans. So instead of saying that the industry needs to be fixed, maybe it's the mentality and excessive debt people tend to get to, just to get new things that should be changed.

[corp]

Originally Posted by AxeDye

I disagree prices are decided by products demand. Also considering it is cheaper than an HD3 accel brand new is nice. Also it only takes up one pcie slot.

Avid has claimed that it's more powerful but I would like see more info on comparison of the two. TDM vs TDM, TDM vs AAX.

It's expensive unless you work or get a kick back from Avid but we'll see how sales are in December. Not many in my area are upgrading and it has nothing to do with affording the product but if it's worth it.

[Diccer]

AxeDye-That sounds more reasonable, probably is set by market price.
Nst7-The fact that you compare it to a Mercedes pretty much sums it up..

Corp-It's too bad they're not selling so well, but I disagree as to why- I think people are hesitant to buy the new HDX because out of fear of double jeopardy.
1)Spending too much money and2)Having it turn out to be a mistake
You'd be kicking yourself for the next year

Many audio software programs turn out to mistakes, but for $300 to $800 its no big deal, just shelve it..
But $10,000 is a gamble for most people because for that kind of cash you can buy

ALL OF THE OTHER AUDIO PROGRAMS(and some of their hardware)

[nst7]

As far as how much power it has, Max Gutnik from Avid has answered this in a similar thread (halfway down the page):

http://duc.avid.com/showthread.php?t=312110&page=2