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System Delay by 3209 samples giving a 2 frame pre delay
It has become aware that our HD TDM system which we have recently upgraded to 7.3.1cs2 has a two frame delay that insert audio 2 frames earlier than the pro tools session timecode. I had a previous problem with video digitizing dropping frames that was thought to be the fact that our sync is a 3209 sample system delay. This obviously is the problem but how do I fix it??? new update due??? otherwise i'm guessing my sync by 2 frames, which is really not good.
Thanks for your time Tom
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Re: System Delay by 3209 samples giving a 2 frame pre delay
Tom
your post is confusing. you will need to provide us with more informaton if we are to help you. how are you digitizing the video? how are you playing back the video? your 2 frame offset suggests a Plasma display or LCD for video playback. is your system locked to Black Burst? are you using ADC? Tom
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Re: System Delay by 3209 samples giving a 2 frame pre delay
Sorry your right, after a re-read. It's not so much about the video although this is a problem. I'm looking at an SDI output from the digibeta itself so it's not a plasma thing. I have black burst and this problem has only happened before 7.3 and was fine at 7.1. Its also not actually a delay, its coming in 1.6 frames before the insertion point in pro tools. Essentually it is the system delay but i don't know how to fix it? any ideas? is it lack of DSP?
what is ADC?
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Re: System Delay by 3209 samples giving a 2 frame pre delay
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how? SDI output from Digibeta digitized how? viewed on what? Quote:
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Re: System Delay by 3209 samples giving a 2 frame pre delay
Tom... I've seen what you're talking about.... It SEEMS to be a problem when you have more delay on tracks then your ADC can handle, but I haven't been able to find EXACTLY when it happens... sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't. When it does, disabling the plugs on the tracks with the long delays will bring everything back into line. The Waves NR stuff seems to be one of the cheif culprits on my system. Also try turning OFF ADC and manually nudging your tracks.
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Re: System Delay by 3209 samples giving a 2 frame pre delay
hi howard,
your system will display red numbers in the delay compensation display on your tracks when you are over. what i am puzzled about is how his video is on his Pro Tools timeline 1.6 frames 'early'.
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Re: System Delay by 3209 samples giving a 2 frame pre delay
ahh... LAYBACK.
using Machine Control? if so, do you have the correct profile for your machine? or, LTC? ADC delays everything to the longest and then once it is all in sync, it pulls it back into time. mabe there is a bug with ADC? i dunno. i haven't run into it.
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Re: System Delay by 3209 samples giving a 2 frame pre delay
I think there MAY be a bug in ADC in 7.3. I have a repeatable issue in one session, where I have a Waves DeNoise on a single dialog track that's bussed to an Aux. The Delay window correctly shows that the 8200 odd samples of delay is beyond the ADC, BUT the other two tracks feeding that bus ARE advanced by 4096 samples! They are actually AHEAD of the playback position... I wonder if this is a Waveshell bug or a DAE bug? When I get a chance I'll try taking the track OFF the bus and see if the problem goes away. Of course this doesn't explain Tom's issue with Layback, but it may be related.
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