I DON'T want to calibrate my room

[dmfisher1]

I DON'T want to calibrate my room, but I do have a question about the actual level of the final film mix (NOT the listening level/spl). Should it be mostly around -24dB to -18dB? Where should the peaks be, at -10dB?

[dr sound]

DmFisher,
If you don't you must have a very good reason that I can't seem to think of.
There is NO standard to where it should sit. Only after your room is calibrated do you Mix and listen and then it's Very obvious where your levels should be. Is this a Feature Film or direct to DVD? It does make a difference. Are you talking Dialog average or mix average with peaks?

[TVPostSound]

The whole point of people stating to calibrate your room, is that film mixers mix by ear!!
If the room is calibrated, there is almost no need to look at the meters, as the levels will all fall into place.
Its not where youre dialog ends up on a meter, but how it translates to the ears in a 85dB calibrated position.

Marti (Dr Sound), and Peter (PiratePost) have showed me my errors recently, as Ive been mixing by meter keeping my dialog around -20 but the relative loudness wasnt there, I remixed a show which now sounds louder (clearer), and my dialog now sits at -22.

Its ALL relative, Im sorry to be redundant, but I saw the light, or maybe I heard it.