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side chain delay comp solved (Non-HD)
I am not sure if this is already a documented solution but I've been struggling with this for a while now.
The issue was. If I created a side chain and sent it to a plug on a track then it would misfire. If I turned off delay compensation then it would line up again. The visual on the plug would look correct but the audio would be off. I tried sending the side chain channel to the same bus as the destination track… no go. Solution: 1. send whatever track you want to send a side chain signal from first to an aux track. 2. make the output of the aux track the same as the final destination for your mix. ie. your master fader of final mix bus. 2. create a send from your AUX track and make that your side chain source. |
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Re: side chain delay comp solved (Non-HD)
Hey Macsearcher, wanted to resurrect this thread if at all possible seeing as I've scoured the net for days and days on this issue, but I have a feeling with my rig being HD Native, the solution described in this thread does not apply for me. I've tried it. Tried it many different ways in fact. Once I have some plugs in my session, particularly on the side chain trigger track's inserts and system delay has gotten considerable (which is normal for me), I get huge flamming on my side chained plugs. I have tried the following:
- Sending the SC bus also to a dummy muted Aux input with outputs set to main mix outs (i.e. A 1-2) also used on my master fader, in order to get ADC to kick in correctly. Didn't work. - The above but instead sending a new send from this dummy Aux to the side chain destination plug. Also didn't work. - Thought about trying the Time Adjuster plugin on an Aux in between side chain trigger track's send and side chain destination track. Doesn't apply though because the signal arriving at side chain destination is always usually late already, so delaying it more is not going to do me any good. I know that not having a full HDX system, I don't have the preference available to enable ADC specifically for side chains... but other than offsetting the dedicated side chain trigger track manually, I haven't been able to get my system to compensate side chain triggers in time at all. It's a real pain in the ass. I like to mix as I record/compose and sometimes setting up side chains before mix time is a part of my creative process so to having to constantly revise my trigger track based on what plugs I'm using in my session, etc... it's a huge vibe/productivity kill. Ideally the ADC would be 'liquid' like it is for all other plugs on tracks as you modify the use of plugs in your session. Of course at the time I didn't know that I would need an HDX system to have this basic feature taken care of when I purchased HD Native... but man... for that kind of $$$.... to not have this working properly....? Total burn. HD software features with Native vs HDX are not identical after all. Anyone had luck with a more elegant workaround for this with specifically HD Native running PT HD 11 software (on OSX)? ...besides just scooting a copy of a side chain trigger track by ear?? Ugh. Anyone know if Avid is actually working on a fix for this for HD Native systems? I seem to have read that they're aware of it but lord only knows when they'll address this for HD Native users... if ever. I'm dying over here.
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