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Why couldn't you wipe the drive and install Mojave? We've done that with new computers many times (not Mojave) when the pre-installed OS wasn't yet compatible with PT.
If the (completely) new hardware such as 16"MBP or new Mac Pro are released with Catalina pre-installed, then Mojave and previous OS will not have drivers required and thus this will not work.
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Just wanted to be the first to complain that it's been one working day and no 2020 update yet!
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And how much longer before Avid releases a compatible version for the next Apple MacOS (will it be called "High Catalina")? Lol. Happy New Years folks!

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It's interesting that we now have started to report - if thing are working...
In 2020 we expect that new versions is not working!
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It's interesting that we now have started to report - if thing are working...
In 2020 we expect that new versions is not working!
It has always been like that when PT is supported on new macOS... at least "always" meaning the time when you were not any longer required to use DigiDesign/Avid hardware with PT. Back in the day people actually read the compatibility information before upgrading anything...
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Why couldn't you wipe the drive and install Mojave? We've done that with new computers many times (not Mojave) when the pre-installed OS wasn't yet compatible with PT.

I like this idea, makes sense

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If the (completely) new hardware such as 16"MBP or new Mac Pro are released with Catalina pre-installed, then Mojave and previous OS will not have drivers required and thus this will not work.

I know what your saying Janes but as little as the hardware changes you might be able to pull it off
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If the (completely) new hardware such as 16"MBP or new Mac Pro are released with Catalina pre-installed, then Mojave and previous OS will not have drivers required and thus this will not work.
That has never been true for the 5 or 6 times we wiped the system drive of a new computer and rolled back to the previous OS. There were no side effects whatsoever and many people do this without issues of any kind. The only reason it cannot be done is if there's hardware present in the new machine which the previous OS wasn't prepared for.

That's why I was asking, specifically: do we know that this particular computer is hardware-tethered to Catalina? My guess is that it is not, but confirmation would be good.
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Old 01-09-2020, 02:08 PM
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I know what your saying Janes but as little as the hardware changes you might be able to pull it off
Yeah, the only hurdle I forsee (without looking into it further) is the absence of 32-bit support in Catalina, which is certainly more extreme than most OS updates, but that alone doesn't suggest that Mojave wouldn't operate perfectly on a new machine.
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That has never been true for the 5 or 6 times we wiped the system drive of a new computer and rolled back to the previous OS. There were no side effects whatsoever and many people do this without issues of any kind. The only reason it cannot be done is if there's hardware present in the new machine which the previous OS wasn't prepared for.

That's why I was asking, specifically: do we know that this particular computer is hardware-tethered to Catalina? My guess is that it is not, but confirmation would be good.
That's because the machines you did it to would have originally shipped with an older Mac OS when they were first released.

For example. One of my Mac Mini's came with Mavericks installed. I downgraded it to Mountain Lion. I was able to do this as when that model of Mac Mini originally shipped, Mountain Lion was the current Mac OS, so drivers were available for that model in the older Mac OS.

The 16" MBP was originally released post Catalina launch. So there was never a model that shipped with Mojave so the drivers required for the hardware in the laptop don't exist in the older Mac OS.

There's a great app available for the Mac and also iOS called Mactracker that lists the specs of EVERY Apple computer and device ever released. It also lists the original OS, down to the point version, that the machine would have originally shipped with if you purchased it on the day of release. That is essentially what you can downgrade the machine to. It's a great app and worth having on your phone. Free btw.
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In this case, the IT guy making the judgment that it can't be retrograded to Mojave is a former Apple repair person.
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In this case, the IT guy making the judgment that it can't be retrograded to Mojave is a former Apple repair person.


And he is correct.

Getting back to the topic at hand, is it an option to step up to a proper version of PT rather than (the quite crippled) PT First?

PT is now Catalina compatible so it would solve your problem.


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