Control 24 vs Tascam DM-4800??

[Rick Akoni]

http://www.tascam.com/Products/dm4800.html

New product. I'm going to get one or the other. Running PTLE. Which one would you get and why? Sorry I'm runnig this by you guys but I'm having some major surgery soon and can't seem to concentrate on doing a search and it's endless threads.

[davidchristopher]

The integration of C|24 and PT is wicked good. The DM48 is a nice piece of kit, but it's not the same kind of product. The Tascam is a digital mixer, the C|24 is a control surface.

Why not tell us about how you work, what you do and we'll go from there...

[Rick Akoni]

DM-4800 - "With a single button press, the Remote layer provides a 24-fader control surface for control of premiere workstations such as Pro Tools"

hmmm, is that just for the faders??

[CanadaMusic]

It implements HUI control (the mackie developed protocol) and will give you a certain level of integreation with Pro Tools beyond fader control (ex. pan, some level of plugin control, transport, mute, solo, record arming). It will not be as extensive as a Control 24 since its protocol is developed by digidesign exclusively for pro tools integration.

The tascam advantages are 1) lower price point 2) 8 more preamps 3) can be integrated into many DAW setups (ex. Nuendo, Cubase, Logic and Pro Tools) 4) Can double as a very equipped live digital console (if you mix or record live at all, this is a huge advantage)

I'm personally looking at grabbing the Tascam console for use as a control surface in Pro Tools and as a live console for live concerts and live album recording so for me the DM-4800 is a no brainer. If your just doing studio work, solely in Pro Tools, the control 24 may be the better avenue as its built for that purpose.

Hope that helps,
- Mike

[James]

Hi

Saw this post after making a reply in another, please forgive the double - this is probably a better thread for my question:


I have a similar issue here - one of my clients bought a 003, and a DM-4800.
He wants to use the 4800 as a control surface for PT LE.

I told him it was overkill, that he needed a lot less gear to do this, etc etc etc, but the guy wanted the 4800, and that's what he bought.

I suppose that he can use 8 of the 4800's mic pres into the 003 via lightpipe... and of course it can be used for gigs and things like that... but my immediate concern is using the DM-4800 to control ProTools.

Now... as mentioned above, the Tascam site SAYS that the DM-4800 is compatible as a control surface for PT, but the manual, which I have right in front of me, doesn't use the word "ProTools" ANYWHERE in the text. It does give instructions for using the DM-4800 as a control surface for Steinberg products, for Digital performer, Logic, Sonar, and as a generic HUI product. No mention of PT.

Anyone have insight on how to make this work?

Is the DM-4800 connected to the 003's MIDI ports, or do I use a USB cable to the Mac and then configure PT to receive control data this way?

I'm pretty savvy in these matters, I just need a starting point...

thanks

JT

[James]

To answer my own question, I heard back from someone at Tascam, who directed me to a document here:

http://www.tascam.com/Products/dm4800_downloads.html

[j20056]

Connect the DM4800 to the Mac via USB. Then PTLE will see the TASCAM under the HUI control surface setup area. Setup 3x and you can control 24 faders.