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AVID: One change that would help us like you a lot more.
Dear AVID,
I have been a Pro Tools user for over 10 years since the Digidesign (branded) days. I really want to love you as a company, but the past 5-10 years have been rough. I really want to see things turn around for AVID, but it will be a long time before bridges have been rebuilt with some of your past, faithful customers. The one HUGE thing that still really shows the lack of respect and trust from AVID is your reinstatement plan. Now don't get me wrong, I have 2 AVID licenses that are both current with the update plan. So this isn't a rant about me having to pay the reinstatement price. Why are reinstatement plans so hurtful? Because it sends a message to your users that you'd better pay up every year or we are going to penalize you. Seriously?!? Is this really the relationship you want with your customers? I think this is why you constantly see so much bad blood floating around about AVID. I'd bet that you would make tons more money if you got rid of the reinstatement plan? Why? Because it would make it so much easier for your customers to pay to get back on board with you. It would send the message out to your customers that you are going to make Pro Tools so amazing, that people won't want to go without an upgrade plan because they will miss out on some amazing upgrades. It shows that you are invested in listening to your customer base because if you don't, we both lose (not just the customer). This may be hard to believe... But there was a day when I enjoyed paying money towards Pro Tools upgrades. I'm serious! When it felt like Digidesign was listening and creating great upgrades, I wanted to pay Digidesign out of appreciation. I wanted Digidesign to win! I wanted them to be successful because I felt like we were in a win-win relationship. Since the branding changed to AVID (2008ish), I haven't ever felt that relationship. It has felt like Avid is struggling to win, so they are going to force it out of their customers type relationship. If you want to make a big change in AVID and possibly even give us a chance to love you again... This would be a HUGE start. Who knows...you might actually realize that people don't really want to hate you, they just want to be treated fairly and with a little respect. Kindness and great relationships with your customers are really the key to great success. The reinstatement plan is a complete enemy to this relationship.
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recording.guru : FREE Pro Tools Tips and 19 Video Basic Training Course Pro Tools HDX 2023.9 Mac Pro 7,1 3.2 GHz 16-Core Xeon W 160 GB RAM macOS 11.7.4 Noisebox Studios -Utah Recording Studio Last edited by Dizzi45Z; 12-29-2017 at 09:27 PM. Reason: Corrections made after realizing AVID has owned Pro Tools since 1995 but didn't change branding until much later. |
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Re: AVID: One change that would help us like you a lot more.
I agree with you to a large extent... my plan is also up to date yet the updates coming from Avid my system no longer supports. I am not going to replace my Mac Pro yet as it still does the job for me and my clients ... obviously I am not therefore, going to renew my plan next year or any other year until I change my computer. It’s seems rather churlish to have to pay a technical fine for that ... no hard feelings or rants just an observation
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Re: AVID: One change that would help us like you a lot more.
^^^^ Dizzi45Z - "The reinstatement plan is a complete enemy to this relationship"
Hear, hear! Couldn't say it better myself - and I love badinage! Also - this should be implemented now for maximum Goodwill - as opposed to a desperate "get them back at all costs" measure down the track. When I'm CEO of Avid, I'll make the Pro Tools software free. Probably have to limit the included Plug-Ins and charge-like-a-wounded-bull for other Plug-Ins and Hardware - but they'll be so good, nobody will mind. Pro Tools in every School and every Student has their own copy at home. Avid "Everywhere" - in the true sense of the word. Small mark-up (sure!) - but, volume sales. When the whole world's running Pro Tools, please spare a thought for Darryl, Tom, Stig, albee1952/Dave, Drew, Carl, Southsidemusic, Nigel and their peers ....
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Re: AVID: One change that would help us like you a lot more.
On 2nd thoughts, I'd prefer Jeffro as CEO.
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Re: AVID: One change that would help us like you a lot more.
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Re: AVID: One change that would help us like you a lot more.
That's poetry in motion!
And thanks for your many contributions here - much appreciated - have a "Great 18"!
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Re: AVID: One change that would help us like you a lot more.
This is a fantastic idea, which is why you can fully expect Avid to never do it. Ever. Just like so many of the fantastic ideas on Ideascale. YOUR CUSTOMERS ARE TELLING YOU EXACTLY HOW TO TAKE THEIR MONEY. Avid: "What we really need is a cloud sharing system!" Me: [FACEPALM]. The entire industry views Avid as a greedy company who makes terrible decisions. I wonder why that is?
I love the software, but seriously Avid, a universal key to success for many of us has been listening to our customers. I'd love to see Avid get on board and start giving us more meaningful updates so that a DAW like Reaper isn't outperforming Pro Tools. FYI Avid- Other DAWs don't take 1 minute to launch. Can we please get some of that? |
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Re: AVID: One change that would help us like you a lot more.
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Just for historical accuracy, Avid purchased Digidesign in early 1995, almost 23 years ago. They didn't re badge their Digidesign products with 'Avid' until much later. I'm not sure exactly how long you've used Pro Tools but for most users Avid has always owned Pro Tools. Widespread dissatisfaction with Avid seemed to me to happen some time around 2010 when they released Pro Tools 9, which untethered Pro Tools from Avid hardware, but was much more expensive to upgrade to.
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Re: AVID: One change that would help us like you a lot more.
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Re: AVID: One change that would help us like you a lot more.
But regardless, you are absolutely right. That was the beginning of many bad decisions. It really felt like a different company to me when Pro Tools went to 9 and beyond. That was when the AVID brand name started showing up everywhere.
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