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Old 12-14-2013, 03:57 PM
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Default Eleven Rack GUI in PT11

My first post ever, so forgive me if this is a worn out topic, or expired, or already amply posted elsewhere -- I looked around and couldn't find it, so:

Does anyone have any inside info on whether Avid will be updating to enable Eleven Rack's GUI to work in PT11 as it does in PT10? The only answers I seem to see are along the lines of "not at this time." Should I figure on it EVER happening? And if yes, someday, is it likely to be within a week, month, year, decade, or ?? I fully get that customers get irritated when their expectations aren't met (thus the invention of "under-promise, over-deliver") -- but customers also get irritated if they've invested money in gear and then get zero information on whether there's any hope for it to continue working forward. Does Avid have a "making customers feel happy" department?

Can anyone give a wink or a nod toward any info on this? Thanks.
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Old 12-14-2013, 04:45 PM
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Default Re: Eleven Rack GUI in PT11

Avid simply does not pre-announce things. So the chance of anybody in the know responding to your question is very slim/next to nothing. Those that do know won't say, and those that might say would likely just be speculating.
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Old 12-15-2013, 12:46 PM
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Default Re: Eleven Rack GUI in PT11

Thank you Darryl. I'll keep the faith [that they will create a 64bit gui for 11r] and motor on.
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Old 12-16-2013, 08:46 AM
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but customers also get irritated if they've invested money in gear and then get zero information on whether there's any hope for it to continue working forward.
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Avid simply does not pre-announce things
Totaly agree, it's a question of strategy vs concurrence and this is completely understandable in case of major release.

But ... in this particular case we are not speaking about plans, we are just speaking about an issue (software regression between version 10 and 11).
Everybody going on the Avid's Eleven Rack page putting himself in a new client shoes will notice that the edition interface is everywhere from the screenshots to videos.

Personaly I decided to migrate to 11R because I naively thought it was better from an integration point of view with the next 64 bit gen of PT11.
Today's result: i'm stuck in the Avid's glue without edition interface for PT, without any explanation.

By the way, even if I do love how this unit sounds, the lack of communication on Eleven Rack (globally none since dec 2012) becomes a big concern for 11R community.
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Old 12-17-2013, 05:09 PM
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Default Re: Eleven Rack GUI in PT11

I agree. Even though avid never pre-announces, it still makes business sense for them to attempt some level of "relationship" with loyal customers. Does anyone know if there is a particular section of the duc where avid reads and considers posts? I could go post the topic there. What strikes me as weird is, all they'd have to say to keep guys like me in their pocket is, "we are excited about bringing the 11r GUI to HD11, and are actively working on it. We anticipate releasing it within the next three years". Instead we get treated like we have no value. It would even be reasonable if they said "the 11r will continue to work, but we won't be making an hd11 GUI ever." At least then we' d know.
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Old 12-18-2013, 06:28 PM
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Default Re: Eleven Rack GUI in PT11

I thought it was mentioned in a post at one point a few months ago that Avid planned to get the Eleven Rack GUI working in PT 11. Seems like the poster mentioned first would come the ability to load set ups from the computer and soon after a fully functional GUI.

Was I dreaming?
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Old 12-20-2013, 07:33 AM
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Ah because the Eleven Rack team was cast to the wind and are not at Avid any more. Avid has lost a lot of staff and been and are still going through serious financial problems. It is pretty amazing they have shipped HD Native, HDX, developed AAX, shipped PT 10 and 11 and been able to do as much there as they have and support Pro Tools as well as they have. The Eleven Rack is a neat, low cost product, I would not spend any time stressing over much ever happening to it in future, if the GUI eventually gets supported like Avid promised in AAX-64/PT 11 then great. If you want a guitar processor with great vendor support and frequent updates and ability to interact with the vendor/developers then there are clearly better choices out there like the Axe-FX II.
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Old 12-20-2013, 11:17 AM
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I would not spend any time stressing over much ever happening to it in future, if the GUI eventually gets supported like Avid promised in AAX-64/PT 11 then great. If you want a guitar processor with great vendor support and frequent updates and ability to interact with the vendor/developers then there are clearly better choices out there like the Axe-FX II.
Hear that all of you Eleven Rack owners!

Think of the hassle saved, if the thousands of us would have read this first. Damn.
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Old 12-20-2013, 11:33 AM
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Hear that all of you Eleven Rack owners!

Think of the hassle saved, if the thousands of us would have read this first. Damn.
Well you seemed to be confused why not a lot is happening, when the development and product team has long since left the building. Avid can being in a contract or similar developer and given enough time they can port the RTAS GUI over to AAX-64 which is what I suspect is happening (e.g. somebody in India grinding their way through porting the GUI). I own an Eleven Rack and would buy another one, they are bargain basement priced but very good, but as far as I'm concerned its a pretty dead product. Buy it for what it offers today, anything else will be a nice surprise.
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Old 12-20-2013, 01:24 PM
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Well you seemed to be confused why not a lot is happening, when the development and product team has long since left the building. Avid can being in a contract or similar developer and given enough time they can port the RTAS GUI over to AAX-64 which is what I suspect is happening (e.g. somebody in India grinding their way through porting the GUI). I own an Eleven Rack and would buy another one, they are bargain basement priced but very good, but as far as I'm concerned its a pretty dead product. Buy it for what it offers today, anything else will be a nice surprise.
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When buying a software company like Digidisign, if you don't respect shareholders, employees, developpers and by the way .. clients , you finally purchase an empty shell ... even if you company is named Avid.
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