Thoughts on the Eiosis e2deesser?

[DJ Hellfire]

How do you guys feel about the Eiosis e2deesser. Been trying it on a few things and Pro Tools Expert has a good video on it, but I still have mixed feelings about it. Maybe I just need to use it a little more. Some times it feels a bit heavy handed, other times not enough. I've been having a tough time finding a middle ground and as a result keep going back to the Waves Deesser.

[YYR123]

I am also interested, i have yet to find a DS'r that actually works w/o making me hate it.

I do and have used MB compression more often than not.

The best version I've heard in my most humble experience was the HOFA IQEQ ----dynamic equalizer is I believe what they call it. My Plugin Alliance version works pretty well too.

[dtmprod]

I love it, don't use anything else anymore. It can be a bit confusing at first to setup, so I asked someone from Eiosis for best workflow. I'll paste his response below. I find that most de-essers tends to dull the top end as you hit it harder. This is the only one that will actually make it sound 'cleaner', especially if you use a bit of the saturation knob.

What I do personally is to first adjust the Sensitivity until it's getting the exact amount of sibilance. I preview it using the monitor controls under the EQ to ensure I've got all of the sibilants. Then, I will dial in a desired EQ curve, mainly taking out high end with a shelf and deciding if I need any other EQ bands. Then I'll adjust the Amount knob to decide how much of the Sibilant EQ attenuation I want. Then I'll turn up the Auto, then the Smooth knob to taste. I get great results this way.
Hopefully that helps.

[Meads]

I myself have been looking for the perfect deesser and haven't found it yet (own most of the ones available). I use several different deessers in a row, which to me yields the best result.
The Eiosis DeEsser doesn't appeal to me at all. It alters the sound of the signal too much.
The ones I find to work best in conjunction are Fabfilter, Waves Ren and SPL.

[JFreak]

Originally Posted by YYR123

I have yet to find a DS'r that actually works w/o making me hate it.

I have. It's called volume automation

[YYR123]

Originally Posted by JFreak

I have. It's called volume automation

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[treason]

Originally Posted by Meads

I myself have been looking for the perfect deesser and haven't found it yet (own most of the ones available). I use several different deessers in a row, which to me yields the best result.
The Eiosis DeEsser doesn't appeal to me at all. It alters the sound of the signal too much.
The ones I find to work best in conjunction are Fabfilter, Waves Ren and SPL.

I use a similar approach incorporating Fabfilter Pro DS, Sonnox Supresser and McDSP AE400/AE600.

I'm over anything Slate related, and while I realize Eiosis is not Slate, they share the same algorithms architect. I've incorporated a policy to divest the studio of as much Slate related products as possible. So it also does not appeal to me.

YMMV, etc ...

[WernerF]

I second the idea of volume automation. I have pretty much all of the de-essers and some of them work ok but nothing really works as well as good old volume automation or, even preferably, clip gain manipulation. Works like a charm but obviously takes longer than using a plugin.

[deanrichard]

While I don't have the Eiosis, I have gotten good results using the TDR Nova dynamic EQ as a deesser. It's free, and excellent, so if you don't already have it you might want to use it to compare.

Originally Posted by DJ Hellfire

How do you guys feel about the Eiosis e2deesser. Been trying it on a few things and Pro Tools Expert has a good video on it, but I still have mixed feelings about it. Maybe I just need to use it a little more. Some times it feels a bit heavy handed, other times not enough. I've been having a tough time finding a middle ground and as a result keep going back to the Waves Deesser.

[deanrichard]

I also manually set clip levels when sibilance is a major problem. It doesn't really take all that long, I can do a vocal track in a few minutes. But as you said, it's not as quick as adding a plugin.

Originally Posted by WernerF

I second the idea of volume automation. I have pretty much all of the de-essers and some of them work ok but nothing really works as well as good old volume automation or, even preferably, clip gain manipulation. Works like a charm but obviously takes longer than using a plugin.