Are you using a 6th generation Intel processor?

[chrismeraz]

I need a new rig.

Are you using a Skylake processor? How is it working out for you with Pro Tools 12?

I want to make sure there are no problems with Interrupt To Process Latency on the new H170 chipsets, because that is killing me right now with my 3rd gen processor and Z77 chipset.

Thank you so much!

[JuanPC]

CPU´s have not improved much since 1st gen.
i still have i7 970 "x5975" X58 boards overclocked to 3.6Ghz.
& AMD Opteron 6276 @ 2.6Ghz.

just see Cinebench R15 Single CPU tests...
most intel CPU´s are around +/-150pts.
few over 200.

more cores = less powerfull single CPU must be.
too much power hungry...
most boards/cpus are designed to be around 150Watts or less per CPU, and 81°C or less.

if low latency needed "64buffer", closer to 5GHz and PCI/pcie soundcard required., some claim to work at 64buffer with HD N.
Fast Bounce also depends on CPU if plugin are not designed to spread load across all cores.
Less physical cores = faster the overclock can be...

AMD 32-cores vs. intel 12-threads...
i have both...
i like both...

[Drew Mazurek]

Yes, consumers (who drive the industry) want battery life!!!

[chrismeraz]

You must be joking. Not improved from Generation 1 to 6??

Die size reduced from 45nm to 14nm
Double the number of cores
50% cache size increase
320% bus speed increase
20% decrease in TDP
RAM was DDR3 1333, now DDR4 2133

Anyway, let's please stick to the OP...

[JuanPC]

Originally Posted by chrismeraz

You must be joking. Not improved from Generation 1 to 6??

Die size reduced from 45nm to 14nm
Double the number of cores
50% cache size increase
320% bus speed increase
20% decrease in TDP
RAM was DDR3 1333, now DDR4 2133

Anyway, let's please stick to the OP...

I only care about End Results, like Cinebench.
..

14nm great for Cellphones, for Servers? maybe less power consumption, because less heat needed to be dissipated....
but im not Google with 14.000 cpus...
and my CPU is watercooled.

smaller the transistor size, the more sensible to radiation errors.
in space only 90nm CPU´s work.

DDR3 1333 to DDR4 2133, thats great for ProTools Ram Disk Cache, & AMD/Dataram Ram Disk/Drive, and also for Samsung SSD Magic software Rapid Mode Write.

a ddr4-2133 should give in theory 2000MB/s in HDTune benchmark.
but RAID10 had those speeds long ago.

interesting to see some Cinebench tests.
...

[guitardom]

Originally Posted by JuanPC

CPU´s have not improved much since 1st gen.
i still have i7 970 "x5975" X58 boards overclocked to 3.6Ghz.
& AMD Opteron 6276 @ 2.6Ghz.

just see Cinebench R15 Single CPU tests...
most intel CPU´s are around +/-150pts.
few over 200.

more cores = less powerfull single CPU must be.
too much power hungry...
most boards/cpus are designed to be around 150Watts or less, per CPU. or 81°C or less.

if low latency needed "64buffer", closer to 5GHz and PCI/pcie soundcard required., some claim to work at 64buffer with HD N.
Fast Bounce also depends on CPU if plugin are not designed to spread load across all cores.
Less physical cores = faster the overclock can be...

AMD 32-cores vs. intel 12-threads...
i have both...
i like both...

I know you think you are being helpful, but you continue to post false information, and it is getting ridiculous!!!

Each generation of processor gets a minimum 3-5% boost in horsepower.

The amount of L2-L3 cache is also growing. In simplistic terms, it is ram built on to the CPU that contains the most important CPU instruction sets. WAY faster than ram and a large part why newer CPU systems will feel "smoother" than older generations.

Again, you dont need a "near 5Ghz" processor to run at a 64HW Buffer! Stop saying this, its an outright lie!

Furthermore, a PCIe based system is also not needed!!! We were running at a 64HW Buffer over 10 years ago on the 002. I have an Eleven Rack (USB) that I also do that on.

I build new 8 core systems that are significantly more powerful than 2008-2010 12 core Mac Pro's in Pro Tools. There are many variables that lead to this happening. It is not as simple as saying "core speed" or any other single improvement.

You are the only person mentioning Cinebench here. Comparisons are typically made with Geekbench. If you want direct Pro Tools comparisons, the Dverb test is what is used.

You are still running a first gen i7. You really need to work on newer systems before making generalizations about them.

[Pete Gates]

Originally Posted by JuanPC

DDR3 1333 to DDR4 2133, thats great for ProTools Ram Disk Cache, & AMD/Dataram Ram Disk/Drive, and also for Samsung SSD Magic software Rapid Mode Write.

Faster memory is good for anything that's not totally CPU bound - most general purpose computing apart from tight loop DSP stuff for example. It's not just good for RAM disk/ disk cache, that's a ridiculous statement.

Originally Posted by JuanPC

a ddr4-2133 should give in theory 2000MB/s in HDTune benchmark.
but RAID10 had those speeds long ago.

Eh? What are you talking about?! You're comparing RAM speed with hard disk drive array speed? Why? Who even brought that up?

Pete

[JuanPC]

Originally Posted by Pete Gates

Eh? What are you talking about?! You're comparing RAM speed with hard disk drive array speed? Why? Who even brought that up?

Pete

ProTools12.2 Ram Disk Cache makes a Virtual Drive Private to ProTools... it was HD Only feature.
ProTools then uploads/copy all .wav/.aiff in the HDD/SSD .ptf/.ptx folder into the Virtual RAM disk.
Faster Access times.
but if does not have ECC, is risky. Errors can happen.

AMD/Dataram software creates a Virtual Ram Drive Visible to Windows Explorer, like a normal SDD/HDD.

Samsung Rapid Write Cache... also does a similar thing....
most HDD´s have cache built in for Speed Boost....
but SSD cache must be used for Error correction...
SSD does not have Speed Boost Cache...
Samsung created a Software that creates a 1GB Cache in a Virtual Ram Drive,
only available to Samsung Rapid Mode, emulating a SSD write cache in Ram.

RAM are like SSD & HDD´s but they loose all information when power is Off.
RAM are like SSD & HDD´s but faster.
RAM work like a Private Virtual SSD & HDD´s for each software, making software faster.

[chrismeraz]

This is true Juan, RAM can act as a HD. Let's try and return to the topic, everyone, thanks for your input!

Is anyone using the 6th generation processors and H170 chipsets? I want to make sure there are no problems with DPC latency, because that is killing me right now with my 3rd gen processor and Z77 chipset.

[Pete Gates]

Originally Posted by JuanPC

ProTools12.2 Ram Disk Cache makes a Virtual Drive Private to ProTools... it was HD Only feature.
ProTools then uploads/copy all .wav/.aiff in the HDD/SSD .ptf/.ptx folder into the Virtual RAM disk.
Faster Access times.
but if does not have ECC, is risky. Errors can happen.

AMD/Dataram software creates a Virtual Ram Drive Visible to WindowsExplorer, like a normal SDD/HDD.

Samsung Rapid Write Cache... also does a similar thing....
most HDD´s have cache built in for Speed Boost....
but SSD cache must be used for Error correction...
SSD have no Speed Boost Cache...
Samsung created a Software that creates a 1GB Cache in a Virtual Ram Drive,
only available to Samsung Rapid Mode.

RAM are like SSD & HDD´s but they loose all information when power is Off.
RAM are like SSD & HDD´s but faster.
RAM work like a Virtual SSD & HDD´s for each software, making software faster.

Erm, I reiterate, what are you talking about?! I know what RAM is, I've been programming on and off since 1978. What you're saying is TOTALLY irrelevant, chrismeraz correctly pointed out the increase in RAM speed over the last few years and you started bringing hard drives into the equation - or not actually.

Pete