002R - How Many Simultaneous I/O’s / recoding more than 12 tracks at once

[little_bloke]

Simultaneous I/O’s?

The Details on the 002r are a little sketchy.

I’m going to be recording drums, lots of drums, and I need at least 12 simultaneous inputs..

It appears that the 001 can handle 18, albeit in a convoluted way, the details on the 002r are less clear, can anybody enlighten me.

I would also like to hear people’s experiences when recording more than 8 inputs at once… any issues, what setup, how are you routeing??

Thanks

LB

[Bastiaan]

the 002 has a total of 18 inputs, just like the digi001.

4 inputs with a mic-pre (but also usable as a line-input)
4 line-inputs

8 channels through adat-lightpipe
2 channels through spdif

if you want to record at a higher samplerate as 48 Khz, then your inputs are only 10, because the adat-lightpipe protocol only goes up to 48 Khz, and so you cannot use that with higher samplerates.

Issues to watch out for are little latency problems. The digi002 has a certain delay in its ad-converters, but maybe some other device you connect has slightly other characteristics, so you could end up with phasing-issues...

But you can figure out the difference, and move the tracks so they are ok.

[kmshroom]

the 002R has 8 analogue ins on the back.

it also has S/PDIF in and out, which is two channels (a digital connection, so you have to buy an external A/D D/A converter taht communicates with 002R via SPDIF coax). i don't know of cheap options in this dept off hand, maybe the Lucid AD9624 & DA9624 combo, which will total around $1,300. a very quality option is the Apogee Mini-Me + Mini-DAC, totalling about $2,000.

it also has ADAT optical in and out, which is 8 channels (a digital connection, so you have to buy an external A/D D/A converter taht communicates with 002R via ADAT optical). a cheap way to go about this is the ALESIS AI-3 (roughly $399), which is gonna be about the same quality as the 001. the most expensive way to go about this is with the Apogee AD-8000, which is over $4,000.

so a total of 18 ins and outs (8 analogue on the 002, 8 ADAT optical, 2 S/PDIF coax).

[kmshroom]

ha, bastiaan, you beat me to it! [img]images/icons/wink.gif[/img]

[Bastiaan]

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[little_bloke]

Hey.. Thanks, to both of you.. 2 replies in less than an hour...! [img]images/icons/cool.gif[/img]

thanks VERY Much for the info.. looks like ill be getting a 002r then!

[BrianD]

Just make sure you have some way of using those ADAT channels, otherwise you're stuck with just the 8 analog inputs. Something like the octapre or digimax would work (plus they have 8 mic pres). Look around, there was a thread about it recently that I was reading.

Brian

[little_bloke]

I have had a look, I think that the:

"Behringer Ultragain pro-8 Dital 8000"
(what a stupidly long name!)

http://www.behringer.com/02_products...A8000&lang=eng

for 196GBP or 250USD

Will be my interface.. I have a 16 channel Soundcraft Desk that I am using for (general) pre-amping but I'm also going to invest in a Tube preamp and a tube compressor (aslo Behringer)


If you are interested the links are:

Compressor
http://www.behringer.com/02_products...T1952&lang=eng

Preamp
http://www.behringer.com/02_products...T1953&lang=eng

I am impressed with the behringer stuff.. I've spent over a year in and out of a studio that has an SSL 8000 and is mainly analoge.. Almost all the outboard stuff is Behringer.. Never had any problems with it.. and it's relatively cheap!

[Captain_Pants]

Also make sure you have a good computer.
No sense even trying to record 12 tracks at once if the computer cannot handle it.

[little_bloke]

I think I've got that Bit sorted... Here's my spec.. Any comments, esp. what are currently considered the best SATA Drives whould be welcome... I Would stretch to SCSI but I just cant Afford it!

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