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[EGS]

If booting to BIOS doesn't show options for C States, it might be in a bios sub-menu. Google for a solution, on your specific Dell model bios, or, ask Dell tech support. All the other optimizations you listed need to be addressed, too. Do them ALL and your rig should work!!!

[tricyclerocks]

Scroll down to Processor power management and expand it.

That isn't there. The options stop at "sleep".
Now PT doesn't recognize my Waves plugins. It still randomly stalls and cancels the recording. What am I missing?

[JFreak]

Is your WavesHell up to date? Always check for new version when you suspect plugin has any part of your problem


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[tricyclerocks]

I don't now. It's in Waves Central. I don't want to recover it if its already there somewhere. This has been a night mare. Things are getting worse. I am not messing in BIOS, especially when the direction aren't clear and specific. C state isn't there that I can find and everything I do compounds into another issue.
This seriously can't be this hard in 2021 to run basic Protools on a new laptop with 32 GB of RAM. I am missing something.

[ejinbc]

OP

Just trying to help, all suggestions IMHO...

My guess is that PT is OK under light load on your Notebook, when load increases the clock speed ramps up (C State/Turbo switching) and then the cooling limits are violated on the CPU (because processing audio puts a sustained load on the CPU, unlike business applications for which Turbo Mode was invented), so it ramps the CPU down again (C State/Turbo switching) and that results is an error.

I have found PT to be very sensitive to C State/Turbo mode switching. The state switch causes a temporary drop in CPU throughput which causes PT to throw the error - or a click/pop as the audio buffer empties. Increased buffer sizes should decrease the rate of errors to a point.

On a Notebook it is very common not to be able to control C State/Turbo switching from BIOS. Maybe Dell has a utility ?

Do you hear the fans ramp up before PT throws an error ? Does the bottom of the Notebook get hot ? Under very light load is it stable - say play one empty track.

Here's a good one, do you get fewer errors if the Notebook is plugged into the wall ? Battery life control can also cause C State/Turbo switching.

Maybe that helps. Dunno

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[tricyclerocks]

It's plugged into my Furman. Never battery.
I don't understand this BIOS/C state stuff. I downloaded some program that said it disabled Turbo Boost. Protool still just givers the plugin error on one track after about 20 seconds. Sometimes. It has gotten worse since I started all this.
Could someone please point me to where a regular human can fix this?
I type in C state disabled and it's just gibberish.

[JFreak]

Originally Posted by tricyclerocks

This seriously can't be this hard in 2021 to run basic Protools

No it isn't, running basic PT is easy if you have supported platform. What is hard in 2021 is running multiple 3rd party plugins

[tricyclerocks]

Originally Posted by JFreak

No it isn't, running basic PT is easy if you have supported platform. What is hard in 2021 is running multiple 3rd party plugins

Why is this a thing? What are you trying to say?

Anyway, I found C states and Turbo Boost in BIOS and deactivated them. We'll see.

[tricyclerocks]

Nope. Still got the error and stop on the 2nd take of 1 mic/channel on a 3 minute song.

[JFreak]

Originally Posted by tricyclerocks

Why is this a thing? What are you trying to say?

Sayin' that Avid only tests Avid plugins, nothing more. So once you have strange problems standard troubleshooting is moving all plugins to unused folder (Avid stock plugins will be copied back on next PT launch) and see if the problem went away. Then start moving plugins back one vendor at a time and expect the problem come back at some point. Which is the point when you know which vendor plugins you need to update (or stop using).

Remember plugins are loaded into memory even if you do not use them in the session, which is why moving to unused folder is essential in troubleshooting.

Even one bad plugin can make your system unstable.