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Old 10-18-2020, 01:27 PM
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Default Shuttle Lock Speeds with Bluetooth Numeric Keypad

Hi all,

I am trying to play back at different shuttle lock speeds using my newly bought bluetooth numeric keypad. I press Alt+9 (or any combination of Alt+keypad number) and the playback speed stays the same.

The only way I can play back at faster speeds is by holding alt+click & drag with my bluetooth mouse.

Does anyone have any solutions for this please? I bought the numeric keypad for the shuttle lock function only, so this is quite frustrating.
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Old 10-18-2020, 01:53 PM
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Do you have Ultimate? If so its just the keypad keys. No Alt.

And what exact keypad did you buy. Some may get themselves in numeric key mode where they send the main keyboard number key codes... you can check with a utility like Keycodes (https://manytricks.com/keycodes).
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Try Control+Num Pad.
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Old 10-18-2020, 05:50 PM
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Do you have Ultimate? If so its just the keypad keys. No Alt.

And what exact keypad did you buy. Some may get themselves in numeric key mode where they send the main keyboard number key codes... you can check with a utility like Keycodes (https://manytricks.com/keycodes).

Hi, thanks for your reply. I only have the normal Pro Tools, 2020.9.1. This is the keyboard I bought:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

In the Pro Tools shortcuts manual, it states that CTRL + number key will enable Shuttle Lock at different speeds. At the moment, I can only jump forward & backwards using 1 or 2.
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Old 10-18-2020, 08:57 PM
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Hi, thanks for your reply. I only have the normal Pro Tools, 2020.9.1. This is the keyboard I bought:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

In the Pro Tools shortcuts manual, it states that CTRL + number key will enable Shuttle Lock at different speeds. At the moment, I can only jump forward & backwards using 1 or 2.
Yes you are right. That should work. You have to have the insert tool or scrub tool cursor in track(s) you want to scrub/shuttle and then press Control-<keypad #> and once Pro Tools goes into that shuttle speed mode (? not sure what you call it) you can just use the keypad keys without the Control- modifier to do their speed/stop/forward/back things.

And that behavior works in Transport and in Classic modes so there is nothing you need set there.

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Old 10-18-2020, 09:21 PM
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If you use the keycode app you should see the following hex codes when you type on the keypad number keys...

kVK_ANSI_Keypad0 = 0x52,
kVK_ANSI_Keypad1 = 0x53,
kVK_ANSI_Keypad2 = 0x54,
kVK_ANSI_Keypad3 = 0x55,
kVK_ANSI_Keypad4 = 0x56,
kVK_ANSI_Keypad5 = 0x57,
kVK_ANSI_Keypad6 = 0x58,
kVK_ANSI_Keypad7 = 0x59,
kVK_ANSI_Keypad8 = 0x5B,
kVK_ANSI_Keypad9 = 0x5C,

If you see hex values like these... then the keypad is sending main keyboard number key values that will not work.

kVK_ANSI_1 = 0x12,
kVK_ANSI_2 = 0x13,
kVK_ANSI_3 = 0x14,
kVK_ANSI_4 = 0x15,
kVK_ANSI_5 = 0x17,
kVK_ANSI_6 = 0x16,
kVK_ANSI_7 = 0x1A,
kVK_ANSI_8 = 0x1C,
kVK_ANSI_9 = 0x19,
kVK_ANSI_0 = 0x1D,

I have no idea what your keypad is doing, some might be able to change modes, some not. I would hope not but it's an easy thing to confirm it's sending the correct low level key events.
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If you use the keycode app you should see the following hex codes when you type on the keypad number keys...

kVK_ANSI_Keypad0 = 0x52,
kVK_ANSI_Keypad1 = 0x53,
kVK_ANSI_Keypad2 = 0x54,
kVK_ANSI_Keypad3 = 0x55,
kVK_ANSI_Keypad4 = 0x56,
kVK_ANSI_Keypad5 = 0x57,
kVK_ANSI_Keypad6 = 0x58,
kVK_ANSI_Keypad7 = 0x59,
kVK_ANSI_Keypad8 = 0x5B,
kVK_ANSI_Keypad9 = 0x5C,

If you see hex values like these... then the keypad is sending main keyboard number key values that will not work.

kVK_ANSI_1 = 0x12,
kVK_ANSI_2 = 0x13,
kVK_ANSI_3 = 0x14,
kVK_ANSI_4 = 0x15,
kVK_ANSI_5 = 0x17,
kVK_ANSI_6 = 0x16,
kVK_ANSI_7 = 0x1A,
kVK_ANSI_8 = 0x1C,
kVK_ANSI_9 = 0x19,
kVK_ANSI_0 = 0x1D,

I have no idea what your keypad is doing, some might be able to change modes, some not. I would hope not but it's an easy thing to confirm it's sending the correct low level key events.
Thanks for your help Darryl. The numeric keypad I bought was sending the wrong codes. I think I'll return it to Amazon and buy a full bluetooth keyboard this time.

I suspect that it's fully synced up with the Mac properly, because my mac keeps asking me to 'press the key next to the shift button' in order to setup, and of course, the numeric keyboard doesn't have a shift button.

I already use a mouse when working, so using a full keyboard will actually be ok I guess.

Thanks again mate.
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Old 10-25-2020, 10:19 AM
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Or just use Karabiner.
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Or just use Karabiner.
It is impossible to know if Karabiner will help without knowing what key codes are being generated, if they are the same key codes as any keys on the main keyboard then tools like Karabina cannot help. I would do what the OP is doing and find a keyboard that just works.
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Old 10-26-2020, 09:44 AM
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It is impossible to know if Karabiner will help without knowing what key codes are being generated, .

Or just try it - it's free. Haven't run into a bluetooth numpad that it didn't work with yet.
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