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Change tuning A = 432hz or C = 528Hz
Hello, I have recently seen in many forums and websites that some people is changing the default tuning of their instruments. Instead of using a tuning of A = 440Hz as is standard, they are using tunings like A = 432Hz or A = 444Hz. I would like to try out if there is any real difference on how the music sounds and feels to the listener.
I do not know how to change the tuning in Pro Tools. May be it is a setting to define in Pro Tools options, or is it a setting to change on each individual virtual instrument? Normally I use Xpand and Vacuum synth. If anybody knows a virtual instrument that allows to change the tuning it is also good news to me. Thank in advance. |
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Re: Change tuning A = 432hz or C = 528Hz
And I am here to announce that henceforth A = 44.1 kHz...
After all...that's basically what actually happened... At some point, A=440 was adopted as a standard by orchestras and other stakeholders. Prior to that time, A=all over the map, as individual orchestras might use their own choice of tuning, and scores sometimes specified A=(some number). One is free to use A= whatever they want, but if your songs ain't that great at A=440, they're still going to suck at A=whatever. There are far better ways to exercise one's creativity...
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Re: Change tuning A = 432hz or C = 528Hz
I agree.
Pitch has been up and down over the centuries, 440 is a standard that makes sense. There is a fad for using alternate pitches based on some metaphysical supposition, but I have yet to be convinced that anything I've heard has been factual and not wishful thinking. Not to mention all the damned guitar players tuning down a half step! |
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Re: Change tuning A = 432hz or C = 528Hz
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Keith Richards used "Open G" on "Honky Tonk Women"...ergo, oddball guitar tunings are beyond cool...
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Re: Change tuning A = 432hz or C = 528Hz
Well, alternate tunings of all sorts have been used since the invention of music. But as for the A=432, there are various schools of thought Just Google "432" for more!
I've never tried this, but I tend to agree with Bill that if the music is bad at A=440 it won't improve with a different tuning, or even a different key in normal tuning. I think what drives this concept more than anything is the belief that somehow that frequency and the harmonics associated with it, as well as the frequencies for all the other notes using that standard and their harmonics, are somehow more in line with the resonate frequencies in the universe and therefore produces a better emotional response to music. Its a combination of a smattering of some isolated physics phacts with some Eastern mysticism concepts and such. Take it as you will. Still might be worth experimenting with it just for fun if nothing else.
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I get tired of the SRV/Cobain clones that tune the guitar to the key of B, as in a half step low, Eb Ab Db Gb Bb Eb, and since Jimi did it too it MUST be cool. At least tune a whole step low and be in the key of Bb! |
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Unfortunately, there are a lot of folks out there who try to use things like non-standard tunings to compensate for their own lack of ability...
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Re: Change tuning A = 432hz or C = 528Hz
I tuned an acoustic guitar of mine down to 432 and it really felt more open and resonant to me. No way for me to double blind test it but it definitely felt different. But yes absolutely it ain't gonna save a bad song. Also some friends of mine tried it and got all the crickets chirping outside.
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Re: Change tuning A = 432hz or C = 528Hz
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X Note that all opinions, observations, whatever, in this post are mine, unless I'm being mean or am wrong, in which case it's somebody else's fault. I do not work for Avid (their loss)...my only relationship with Avid is that of a customer (when I'm not too poor to buy stuff, like now)...and that hot administrative assistant...that's more of a "thing" than a "relationship" (that should keep them guessing for a while...) Just rockin'...what more is there? Bill in Pittsburgh |
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