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Re: Running out of CPU power? How is this possible?
I have 003, Mac Pro and and extra hard from Apple. I experienced in the past the same problems, now things are better.
Remove ALL the third-plugings in the unused folder and see what happens, because I really think that is the only way to find out the problem. It worked for me (I had to stop using almost everything from IK-Media), I hope it'll work for you.
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Re: Running out of CPU power? How is this possible?
There has got to be some sort of a language barrier at work here, because this guy has been told 3 hundred times to separate his VI libraries from his audio drive and he still doesn't do it.
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Re: Running out of CPU power? How is this possible?
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I appreciate the help, but read the posts before commenting.
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Re: Running out of CPU power? How is this possible?
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I guess I'll have to stop using the IK-Media plugins as well for now. Anyone use BFD2? Any known problems?
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Re: Running out of CPU power? How is this possible?
I read somewhere on this board about BFD causing problems....even a qualified version. Try taking it out. It does not take a second....
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Re: Running out of CPU power? How is this possible?
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What I am saying though, is the moment I got super anal about my drives and what they do, what they have on them and why, etc... then my system and sessions and pro tools just started reacting super snappy like. Like a dream. You really can notice a difference with just following this general rule of thumb... Think, "drives have needles like a turntable (just a heck of alot faster), therefore they have seek and read times, they need to FIND the information they are being triggered to find or FIND space to write/record information they are told to, THEN actually carry out the task. So using that knowledge now, it is always wise and logical to TRY to never have your drives trying to do too much simultaneous tasks (recording, while looking/seeking for playback files, WHILE running the whole computer, WHILE running the program itself, WHILE then also having to locate sound libraries for such programs, etc..). It is best and most logical to try to get a drive to be dedicated for EACH task instead. Therefore not taking performance away due to the fact that one needle has a very hard time accessing all that info simultaneously. Hell 2 needles have a rough time doing all that !! So really each persons approach to how they operate a studio will dictate how many drives they need. I just wrote my main suggestion for ANY DAW is all, not just PT. Do you need it ? No. Will it run better, smoother and more efficient and allow for higher track counts with more voices and less beach balls running high demanding plugs if you do ? YES !! Hell, I actually am even more nuts, and on all my Desktop computers I rip out the stock drive, and I get a 10,000rpm drive for it and then add 4-5 other 10,000rpm drives for a spankin set up. Thats makes even the Apple computer itself more snappy too. The OS and all apps running on a 10,000rpm drive is just a great experience. On my Laptop Mobile set ups I do all 7,200rpm drives (OS included). With that set up, it is wise to also make sure ALL your drives in your set up are the same rpm. (IMO) Quote:
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Really my suggestion keeps the performance at the highest possible. And how cheap drives are getting now a days, it's a no brainer for me. Why not ? Quote:
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I use BFD on my HD set up. No problems, but I haven't upgraded yet. On my HD Accel 7 rig, I am on PT 6 still (cause I like it), I am using a Dual 2.7 G5 PPC. With about 6 SCSI drives in a Magma Expansion Chassis.. One hell of a set up for 6 years ago and still runnin strong. Aint seen a beach ball in ages and I do extremely large sessions that have taxing PI on them. I use BFD the first one alot with all the expansion packs I can use with BFD1, and have never had a issue. I plan to upgrade to BFD2 and then get all the rest of the expansion packs. But I have to upgrade my computer and PT then, so it will be a while before I take the plunge. I hope it runs fine. It better. I don't think he has BFD2 yet, he was just asking about it. And damn, that is bad news if there are issues. I sure hope not. I plan on upgrading eventually. LOL
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Re: Running out of CPU power? How is this possible?
THANK YOU for saying something about IK stuff not working well!! i their stuff sounds good but there is something up with them and protools.
and i dont think digi/avid is to worried about it either. i KNOW IK isint.
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Actually, pending on what kind of 3rd party VI's you are running, some mandate a DEDICATED drive for their vast sound libraries. (Stylus RMX is one, and BFD is another, and the most demanding is Vienna Instruments, there are a few more too). If you do the math, that means a 3rd drive. Cause your OS is 1, and Digi themselves tell you to have a dedicated drive for your sessions (and to NOT have them on your OS), so that 2. If your 3rd party VI asks for a DEDICATED drive too, then what does that equal ? 3 drives my friend. I've been on both sides man, for years. Tried every set up possible. Set up every set up possible. And everytime I set up a PT rig with multiple drives, it runs the 3rd Party VI's smoother. As a matter of fact, the more drives I use and the faster their rpm's are the smoother it runs the 3rd Party VI's. That means that when you launch the plug in's interface, there is no beach ball at all not even for a millisecond. Then when you change sounds there is no millisecond pause... it just SNAPS to it instantly like it should. To me, that means running better. And I love it. Right now, pending on what you own, launch the Digi stock plug in "Mini Grand"... see how it has that little freeze up for a second while it loads the plug in ? Well, that is a tiny library compared to ones from BFD, Stylus RMX, Vienna Instruments, etc.. So imagine if you kept the same set up with them VI's that dwarf that MiniGrand and Expand2.... It would be a huge pause, and everytime you change sounds, a huge pause. Now, use a drive set up like I suggest, and all them VI's will launch as quick as "Text Edit". And be as responsive as text edit too !! Thats a big improvement. Now that improvement then lifts a huge weight off of the drive running your session too, so then you see a more responsive PT too. So there ya go.
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Re: Running out of CPU power? How is this possible?
That depends on what you use it for. If you use a lot of VI's with sample libraries things run a lot smoother by having them on a third, preferably internal, drive.
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