Eleven Rack GUI in PT11

[musicman691]

Originally Posted by Darryl Ramm

"Can't be done" would be hard to fathom, if just staying with support within Pro Tools only then there is not much "there there" in the Eleven Rack GUI. It is just some very simple in concept plugins talking midi control over USB to the Eleven Rack box. And the Basic GUI stuff for AAX is clearly well shaken out. But there are lots of little bits to do and if it was being done by say a contractor new to this then it might well take time.

I would be careful reading tea leaves from primates, but OTOH if Avid bit the bullet and decided to do a full stand alone editor then they have the choice of writing that in AAX and shipping with a stand-alone AAX runtime (maybe using bits they already have from the SDK?) or rewriting a GUI completely outside of AAX or maybe using just bits of the AAX GUI code--to help with cross platform portability. It could well take time to shake that extra stuff out and get it shippable. And if you do a stand alone editor do you also do an editor that will run inside Pro Tools to cleanly handle things like track embedding. Maybe that leads you to want to do an AAX-64 port that can run as a plugin or stand-alone in a separate AAX runtime or need hooks in Pro Tools or a plugin in Pro Tools to handle that communication with a stand alone GUI.

Ah idle speculation.... personally I am beyond really worrying, the Eleven Rack works great for what I need and I barely use the GUI. If something happens there then I will be pleasantly surprised.

The track embedding can already be done in PT 11 so that's not the worry.

As far as reading the tea leaves from The Chimp I don't think what he said was a throwaway. After all he's closer to the situation then any of us. If he had meant "sorry we had to drop the 11R control window in PT11 for now" that would be different.

Trying to create or even edit patches on the front panel of the 11R is like editing patches from the single line display on a Yamaha DX7. Been there, done that and it ain't the easiest thing to do. Wish I never got rid of that beast

[Benoni]

Originally Posted by kelco83

Standalone editor probably won't let me embed rigs into the tracks right? Not completely ideal.

You can already embed rigs into a track in Pro Tools 11.

Since the editor is not available in PT11, you now choose what track to embed to from the IO.

[Darryl Ramm]

Originally Posted by Benoni

You can already embed rigs into a track in Pro Tools 11.



Since the editor is not available in PT11, you now choose what track to embed to from the IO.

Yes and that leaves the question of how transparently you could open or modify those in a stand alone editor.

Give the teapot another stir, I think there are more tea leaves in there...

[musicman691]

Originally Posted by Darryl Ramm

Yes and that leaves the question of how transparently you could open or modify those in a stand alone editor.

Give the teapot another stir, I think there are more tea leaves in there...

Yeah - I can see problems with a truly standalone editor giving or having problems with rig embedding. If a rig was changed in standalone would PT throw up an error message that the embedded rig cannot be found? This brings up the possibility of either losing embedding or Avid actually doing two separate programs - a standalone for everyone who doesn't want to run PT and one for those of us who do and depend on embedded rigs that's wholly integrated with PT.

Brewing a fresh pot of tea

[gtrm8kr]

Well, this is disappointing. I had high hopes for 11.1 and 11R.

"Pro Tools 11 does not provide the Guitar Window for Eleven Rack that is available in lower versions of Pro Tools."

[YYR123]

Originally Posted by kelco83

Standalone editor probably won't let me embed rigs into the tracks right? Not completely ideal.

yeah I want standalone editor and 11rack window !!!! Pretty pls!!!

All I want for Xmas is my 2 eleven rack windows :)

[musicman691]

Originally Posted by YYR123

yeah I want standalone editor and 11rack window !!!! Pretty pls!!!

All I want for Xmas is my 2 eleven rack windows :)

Well the vaunted PT 11.1 is here and still no 11 Rack gui - phooey.

[Darryl Ramm]

Well looking at my latest coffee grinds says that's even more likely now to mean it's a STAND ALONE EDITOR. Wow I'm so excited.....

[YYR123]

It's not just the stand alone editor - it's also the eleven rack window inside PT for rack embedding and so on....

It really increases it's viability as a product to have both

[Darryl Ramm]

Oh you want both, better brew your own pot of tea...