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Old 12-26-2015, 03:27 PM
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Hiya,

I'm working on curriculum design and direction in the TVR dept of a college. Figuring out the audio portion of the course design.

Question. Do you think that someone who does music recording and mixing is qualified to do audio for motion picture? Do you think the essential skills involved in music production apply to film post sound?

I really appreciate any opinions.
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Old 12-26-2015, 03:55 PM
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Default Re: A question for you Post pros

I was quite surprised by how little my 30 years of recording and mixing music applied to doing film work. We obviously use the same tools but the goals are very different. It was definitely a case of starting over for me under the supervision of somebody very experienced. I absolutely loved being somewhat of a beginner again because I've always enjoyed learning.

Post requires lots greater organization and communication skills than music typically does because it is usually a collaboration of a great many people.
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Default Re: A question for you Post pros

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Do you think that someone who does music recording and mixing is qualified to do audio for motion picture?
No.

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Do you think the essential skills involved in music production apply to film post sound?
Yes.


And I'm not trying to be cryptic. Everything I learned in music helped me in television-post, but a big chunk of it was irrelevant. Imagine the Venn diagram:



If you're smart and sensitive and analytical in your listening, you'll do well in any audio field. But post has standards and workflows that have to be learned that are distinctly different from the workflows in music.
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Film sound = movie making or film school education + sound engineering (+ music is beneficial)
Music sound = music, composing and relevant music education.

I had some trainees passed my hands and I can say that its much easier to train a former picture editor than a music mixer to work in post.

Many experienced music mixer finished badly when tried to perform a post work... but as mentioned above everything is possible if a person is aware and open and willing to learn a new field.
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Hiya,

I'm working on curriculum design and direction in the TVR dept of a college. Figuring out the audio portion of the course design.

Question. Do you think that someone who does music recording and mixing is qualified to do audio for motion picture? Do you think the essential skills involved in music production apply to film post sound?

I really appreciate any opinions.
Well , if this helps;
I am coming from 25 years of music production side.
A good portion of my work were acoustic performances.
Due to my age and the declining demand for full blown pro studios I've made a move to switch over to post audio.

The only thing I've brought with me is...I am able to mix a score and properly edit MX tracks.
What I had to learn all over is storytelling with sound and the importance of dialog.
6 years later I am enjoying a busy freelance position for TV.
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