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Ram and XP Pro
I keep seeing all these XP PTle8 machines profiled on here with 6 gigs of ram. If XP can only deal with less than 4 what is the advantage? II have just casually checked this topic out before, but now I am running into situations where Strike is running out of memory to load the sounds I need. I kinda feel like I should have gone the Mac route where if I understand correctly, this would have been an issue, just install more ram. So my other delimma is: should I buy a used hd-1 setup for my pc or getinto a 4 processor mac and keep my ptle8 and just add ram? It seems the cost to go one way or the other would be very close to each other. What would the difficulties be in either approach? I have thousands of dollars invested in plugins and I would want to used them as well? Am I missing something here?
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Re: Ram and XP Pro
Your ram isn't the issue... I mean... well it is but my point being is by the time you get to the point where you need more ram for plugins you already have maxed out your CPU... so you're stuck either way.
Sure go with Mac, but CPU speeds and power will cause you to use less plugins in the end. Oh and having more ram is more of a personal preference for the OS as a whole. I mean just because I run PT doesn't mean I have other applications to run in the background. Most people don't have the money for a dedicated pro tools machine, they share it with other tasks.
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Re: Ram and XP Pro
win 32 can only address about 4 gig. Since maybe a half gig of the address space is reserved for communicating with the video card and other devices, only about 3.5 gig is available for ram usage.
More than that is really doing nothing. With a 64 bit, all of the ram can be addressed. |
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Re: Ram and XP Pro
I do have a dedicated ptle machine....What good does the 8gig of ram do you if nothing is able to use it?
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Re: Ram and XP Pro
Bragging rights?
I'm sure in a few years it will support 64bit OS.
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Re: Ram and XP Pro
ok, so I still have the question of where to go from here...should I buy a used hd-1 setup for my pc or get into a 4 processor mac(that I can add another 4core to later) and keep my ptle8 install it on a mac, that has more ram? It seems the cost to go one way or the other would be very close to each other. What would the difficulties be in either approach? I have thousands of dollars invested in plugins and I would want to use them as well? Am I missing something here?
system info:\ PTle8 pro factory bundle Waves native platnium drumagog Eleven LE DrumAgog and a bunch of others Processor Model : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q9650 @ 3.00GHz Speed : 2.57GHz Cores per Processor : 4 Unit(s) Threads per Core : 1 Unit(s) Type : Quad-Core Integrated Data Cache : 4x 32kB, Synchronous, Write-Thru, 8-way, 64 byte line size L2 On-board Cache : 2x 6MB, ECC, Synchronous, ATC, 24-way, 64 byte line size, 2 threads sharing System Mainboard : ASUSTeK Computer INC. P5K WS BIOS : American Megatrends Inc. 1201 (06/26/2008) Bus(es) : ISA X-Bus PCI PCIe IMB USB FireWire/1394 i2c/SMBus Multi-Processor (MP) Support : No Multi-Processor Advanced PIC (APIC) : Yes Total Memory : 3.25GB DIMM DDR2 DDR3 Chipset Model : ASUS P35/G33/G31 Processor to I/O Controller Front Side Bus Speed : 4x 285MHz (1.14GHz) Total Memory : 4GB DIMM DDR2 DDR3 Memory Bus Speed : 2x 342MHz (684MHz) Memory Module(s) Memory Module : Samsung M3 78T2953EZ3-CF7 1GB DIMM DDR2 PC2-6400U DDR2-800 (5-6-6-18 3-24-6-3) Memory Module : Samsung M3 78T2953EZ3-CF7 1GB DIMM DDR2 PC2-6400U DDR2-800 (5-6-6-18 3-24-6-3) Memory Module : Samsung M3 78T2953EZ3-CF7 1GB DIMM DDR2 PC2-6400U DDR2-800 (5-6-6-18 3-24-6-3) Memory Module : Samsung M3 78T2953EZ3-CF7 1GB DIMM DDR2 PC2-6400U DDR2-800 (5-6-6-18 3-24-6-3) Graphics Processor Adapter : NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GT (32SP 1.46GHz, 256MB 2x720MHz Integrated Graphics) Storage Devices ST3500320AS (500.1GB, SATA150, 3.5", 7200rpm, NCQ) : 466GB (C:) ST3500320AS (500.1GB, SATA150, 3.5", 7200rpm, NCQ) : 466GB (E:) ST3500320AS (500.1GB, SATA150, 3.5", 7200rpm, NCQ) : 466GB (D:) Generic USB SD Reader (USB) : N/A (G:) Generic USB CF Reader (USB) : N/A (H:) Generic USB SM Reader (USB) : N/A (I:) Generic USB MS Reader (USB) : N/A (J:) ATAPI DVD A DH20A4H (SCSI, DVD+-RW, CD-RW) : 326MB (F:) Logical Storage Devices WinXP (C:) : 462GB (NTFS) @ ST3500320AS (500.1GB, SATA150, 3.5", 7200rpm, NCQ) Library (E:) : 466GB (NTFS) @ ST3500320AS (500.1GB, SATA150, 3.5", 7200rpm, NCQ) Audio (D:) : 466GB (NTFS) @ ST3500320AS (500.1GB, SATA150, 3.5", 7200rpm, NCQ) Audio CD (F:) : 0bytes (CDFS) @ ATAPI DVD A DH20A4H (SCSI, DVD+-RW, CD-RW) Peripherals LPC Hub Controller 1 : ASUS (ICH9) LPC Interface Controller LPC Legacy Controller 1 : Winbond W83627DHG Audio Device : ASUS (ICH9) HD Audio Controller Serial Port(s) : 1 Disk Controller : ASUS (ICH9) 4 port Serial ATA Storage Controller 1 Disk Controller : ASUS (ICH9) 2 port Serial ATA Storage Controller 2 Disk Controller : ASUS 6121 SATA2 Controller USB Controller 1 : ASUS (ICH9) USB Universal Host Controller USB Controller 2 : ASUS (ICH9) USB Universal Host Controller USB Controller 3 : ASUS (ICH9) USB Universal Host Controller USB Controller 4 : ASUS (ICH9) USB2 Enhanced Host Controller USB Controller 5 : ASUS (ICH9) USB Universal Host Controller USB Controller 6 : ASUS (ICH9) USB Universal Host Controller USB Controller 7 : ASUS (ICH9) USB Universal Host Controller USB Controller 8 : ASUS (ICH9) USB2 Enhanced Host Controller FireWire/1394 Controller 1 : Avlab Technology TSB43AB23 1394a-2000 OHCI PHY/link-layer Controller FireWire/1394 Controller 2 : ASUS VT6306 VIA Fire II IEEE-1394 OHCI Link Layer Controller SMBus/i2c Controller 1 : Intel 801xx/63xx SMBus Network Services Network Adapter : Marvell Yukon 88E8056 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Controller - Packet Scheduler Miniport (Ethernet, 1Gbps) Network Adapter : Marvell Yukon 88E8052 PCI-E ASF Gigabit Ethernet Controller - Packet Scheduler Miniport Power Management Mains (AC) Line Status : On-Line Operating System Windows System : Microsoft Windows XP Professional 5.01.2600 (Service Pack 3) Platform Compliance : x86 |
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Re: Ram and XP Pro
It looks like you have a pretty good combination of components here. One thing I might look at is RAM speed; I know you could do better for very little investment.
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I have a feeling it's more of a 'tweak issue' with your setup. Don't get lulled into thinking that having a Mac eliminates all set-up issues. Cheers, Scott |
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Re: Ram and XP Pro
Ok, well thats good to know. I will look into that. I have really never had a cpu issue except when running 13-14 instances of Eleven. I've only just started using Strike and I don't seem to have enough memory to load the sounds I want. I'm not a hobbyist, this is one facet of my business and it has to perform, so if I have to make some hardware changes its got to happen. I just need it to be as cost effective as possible. What ram would be better?
I thought it was a matter of amount of ram. |
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