Avid Pro Audio Community

Avid Pro Audio Community

How to Join & Post  •  Community Terms of Use  •  Help Us Help You

Knowledge Base Search  •  Community Search  •  Learn & Support


Avid Home Page

Go Back   Avid Pro Audio Community > Legacy Products > Pro Tools 2020
Register FAQ Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #141  
Old 11-16-2020, 11:42 AM
rinky rinky is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: NorCal
Posts: 296
Default Re: Worst Dark Mode Ever

Had dark mode on for 2 minutes.
Went back to classic!
__________________
PT Ultimate 2024.3
PT HDX
MacPro 7,1 (Intel)
16 Core
96 GB ram
macOS Ventura 13.4
Somehow, musicians are now technicians!
Reply With Quote
  #142  
Old 11-16-2020, 11:45 AM
The Weed's Avatar
The Weed The Weed is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 7,155
Default Re: Worst Dark Mode Ever

See this thread about the "Padding" in Windows.

And here is an article about tweaking colorization settings.

Always back up the Registry before making any changes. And, as always, YMMV.
__________________
Take your projects to the next level with a
non-union national read at reasonable rates
Demos: brucehayward dot com
SonoBus
Source-Connect: brucehayward
Options for Remote Direction
Reply With Quote
  #143  
Old 11-16-2020, 12:06 PM
blemished blemished is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: London
Posts: 4
Default Re: Worst Dark Mode Ever

Quote:
Originally Posted by Akiz View Post
https://www.icloud.com/iclouddrive/0...PT_Eucon_Icons

Get the icon set from the link above. Unzip it. Locate the icon inside the folder, click on it and hit Cmd+C to copy it in the clipboard.

Go to your Applications folder, locate ProTools app, select it and hit CMD+i to open the info window. Click on the icon, top left to select it, then hit CMD+V to paste the new icon, enter your admin password, done!
(same applies for the Eucon icon change).



Cheers!
Thanks so much for this - sooooo much better than the garish kindergarten purple version!
Reply With Quote
  #144  
Old 11-16-2020, 12:12 PM
Neale Neale is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Canada
Posts: 434
Default Re: Worst Dark Mode Ever

Yeah, being on a Mac with calibrated screens (I use them for video and photography, calibrated with one of the X-Rite thingamajiggers) I’ve got NO complaints about Dark Mode. Maybe some things could be adjusted for TASTE, but as far as FUNCTIONALITY, I’m not missing grid markers, nothing too garish after adjusting colours and saturation within ProTools (although audio regions are super Miami Vice bright... still, the small counter is easier to look at... can’t win ‘em all). I am grateful for the option, don’t have any serious problems with it, and I can always switch back if I want.

Smashing success? I don’t know. But epic fail? Not for me. Pretty good as far as I’m concerned and I’m sticking with it for now.
Reply With Quote
  #145  
Old 11-16-2020, 01:15 PM
musicman691 musicman691 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: The Sopranos State (NJ)
Posts: 19,139
Default Re: Worst Dark Mode Ever

Quote:
Originally Posted by Neale View Post
Yeah, being on a Mac with calibrated screens (I use them for video and photography, calibrated with one of the X-Rite thingamajiggers) I’ve got NO complaints about Dark Mode. Maybe some things could be adjusted for TASTE, but as far as FUNCTIONALITY, I’m not missing grid markers, nothing too garish after adjusting colours and saturation within ProTools (although audio regions are super Miami Vice bright... still, the small counter is easier to look at... can’t win ‘em all). I am grateful for the option, don’t have any serious problems with it, and I can always switch back if I want.

Smashing success? I don’t know. But epic fail? Not for me. Pretty good as far as I’m concerned and I’m sticking with it for now.
Same here brother. I can see the grid no problem. This and track folders may get me to move on up to 2020.11 from 2019.6 even with the unresolved bugs in the MIDI event list.
__________________
Jack
See profile for system details
iMac dead & retired as of 11/4/17

QAPLA!
Reply With Quote
  #146  
Old 11-16-2020, 01:37 PM
daeron80 daeron80 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Orlando, Florida, USA
Posts: 4,106
Default Re: Worst Dark Mode Ever

Quote:
Originally Posted by grayter1 View Post
There's definitely a difference between Mac and Windows systems for dark mode.
Always has been a big difference in the way the two systems handle gamma and such. Gen-X gamer geeks who used Windows programs to make custom graphics for Doom constantly struggled with this in the 90s. Or so I've heard...
__________________
David J. Finnamore

PT 2023.12 Ultimate | Clarett+ 8Pre | macOS 13.6.3 on a MacBook Pro M1 Max
PT 2023.12 | Saffire Pro 40 | Win10 latest, HP Z440 64GB
Reply With Quote
  #147  
Old 11-16-2020, 02:13 PM
Darryl Ramm Darryl Ramm is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: USA
Posts: 19,657
Default Re: Worst Dark Mode Ever

Macs have for a long time now had the same default display gamma (~ 2.2) as Windows

The dark display settings are not great for me on any one of high quality P3 monitors with gamma ~2.2. Carefully calibrated but that should not matter much. The issues for me are the brightness (and maybe excessive color saturation) of the audio waveforms on tracks that you just can't control easilly.

And this is worse for me and I expect other folks who want to use dark mode to operate in much more subdued lighting. If you are in a bright room and just flip to dark mode, sure it looks pretty or maybe just different enough to be pretty for a while. But in a darker room ouch. The day-glo waveform just makes the visibility of the rest of the UI painful to see. Not that I know anything about post, but I wonder how this works for them or if Avid really got feedback from those users. (if so then kudos and I'll shut up as they are the folks who should most need this).

This stuff just looks like somebody's first dark mode attempt. I've worked with a couple of engineering teams who did this in other products and it's surprisingly *not* easy. And they were targeting things like simpler data dashboarding type apps. I've not used Media Composer in years, but I'd hope it's better for viewing in darker viewing critical environments. At least Media composer makes it easy to select a range of UI "brightnesses". Pro Tools should have copied that. And I wish Avid had taken this opportunity to concurrently improve the limited/not very helpful color settings.

Last edited by Darryl Ramm; 11-16-2020 at 02:37 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #148  
Old 11-16-2020, 02:31 PM
Neale Neale is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Canada
Posts: 434
Default Re: Worst Dark Mode Ever

Waveforms garish for me, yes. “Painful”? Not CLOSE to painful for me, working in the “almost dark” of a dimmed, warm-white LIFX lamp that is not pointed directly at me and the ugly glow of my Artist Control next to me with its LCD touchscreen. And if I HAD to have something colourful that draws my eye’s attention, well, if I’m recording something, maybe it’s nice that the one thing on the screen that calls my attention is a waveform.

So far, a bit of mixing, but mostly dialogue editing. Again, no accounting for taste, I wish the waveform palette was a little less garish, but it works fine for me - not handicapping editing breaths and mouth noises in the least. Maybe I’ll look at the MIDI editor and see what everyone is bitching about... it will probably be fine for me too.
Reply With Quote
  #149  
Old 11-16-2020, 03:19 PM
Ray Lyon Ray Lyon is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 1969
Location: Waynesville, NC
Posts: 779
Default Re: Worst Dark Mode Ever

I agree, it's garish and hard on the eyes. You can't adjust brightness color of waveforms relative to track color. The Mix window is especially cluttered... the blank bullets in sends and inserts distract, plugins lose their boundaries, metering becomes a jumble, track names are especially hard to read in context with comments and delay comp +/- windows.

When I call up Melodyne the white screen blasts through blazing your eyes.

An improvement would be to have the option to darken just the clip list, or track list, or edit window, but have the choice leave the mixer window alone. Headache inducing. I'll stick to classic for now.
Reply With Quote
  #150  
Old 11-16-2020, 04:40 PM
musicman691 musicman691 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: The Sopranos State (NJ)
Posts: 19,139
Default Re: Worst Dark Mode Ever

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ray Lyon View Post
I agree, it's garish and hard on the eyes. You can't adjust brightness color of waveforms relative to track color. The Mix window is especially cluttered... the blank bullets in sends and inserts distract, plugins lose their boundaries, metering becomes a jumble, track names are especially hard to read in context with comments and delay comp +/- windows.

When I call up Melodyne the white screen blasts through blazing your eyes.

An improvement would be to have the option to darken just the clip list, or track list, or edit window, but have the choice leave the mixer window alone. Headache inducing. I'll stick to classic for now.
With the exception of the Melodyne window I don't see the problems you're seeing. And you can't blame Avid for the Melodyne white screen. Bitch to Celemony about that.


What do you mean by 'blank bullets in inserts and sends'?


To be honest we never could adjust the brightness of the colors of the waveforms to begin with.
__________________
Jack
See profile for system details
iMac dead & retired as of 11/4/17

QAPLA!
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
"Dark" theme improvements in 2021.3 midnightrambler Pro Tools 19 04-04-2021 05:15 AM
How to change Pro Tools 12 to a Dark theme/skin Defier Pro Tools 12 7 03-26-2016 05:22 PM
Pro Tools 8 theme for Reaper? JazzyJ 003, Mbox 2, Digi 002, original Mbox, Digi 001 (Mac) 0 06-09-2010 07:51 AM
Pro tools theme song....! roijin Pro Tools TDM Systems (Mac) 2 11-27-2001 07:15 AM


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 09:27 AM.


Powered by: vBulletin, Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Limited. Forum Hosted By: URLJet.com