Static noise (aka White noise ) During playback. =/

[PoPimp3069]

Hi all,

The all so popular white noise sometimes shows its ugly face while I'm playing a track back during my mixing process. This doesn't happen every single time I'm mixing down.. just occasionally. For some reason I had this idea that the noise was a result from vibrations (e.g. bumping the table its lying on or sub-woofer hitting too hard..etc) affecting my external hard drive.
Is this possible?

If a Sandra Report is needed I will gladly post it upon request.

Thanks in advance,


Broc

[PoPimp3069]

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[Shan]

What version of PT?

Not much you can do about it until this cs update with it's potential fix gets out the door.

Shane

[PoPimp3069]

I didn't always have this problem. Only recently did it become a problem. I can attest that it's not only 8.0.3 (if that's the correct version), that encounters this same problem. I'm running version 8.0.1 and I'm still experiencing white noise bursts daily. Checked out the link about the update; hope it arrives soon.

[MikeLip]

Some of the reports of the white noise bug you'ld have to believe are false-positives. Maybe you have the symptom, but a different cause.

Does is it the same as the white noise from the video that was posted?

Most obvious causes apart from the bug I'd say bad pc memory or a bad plugin. From sandra looks like your not overclocking, which helps keep things stable. I assume your net card is disabled during pro tools operation.

Were you running 8.03 previously? Folks have reported reverting to 8.01 doesn't fix it unless the O/S is truly clean of PT first (i.e. something is left behind still causing white noiose after deinstall of 8.03). I dont think anyone who has had a clean o/s image and gone back to 8.01cs1 has had a problem.

...but alas maybe you (like many of us) just need the future update.

Mike.

[PoPimp3069]

Mike,

I have only used LE version 8.0.1. I haven't updated to the newer version 8.3. So to answer your question; no I did not go from 8.3 back to 8.0.1 to try to fix the white noise problem. I have only owned version 8.0.1 since it was upgraded from 7.3.
I believe there is a possibility that it could be a plug-in causing this static/white noise. Is there a list of compatible plug-ins for my platform?


Broc

[DigiTechSupt]

Originally Posted by PoPimp3069

Mike,

I have only used LE version 8.0.1. I haven't updated to the newer version 8.3. So to answer your question; no I did not go from 8.3 back to 8.0.1 to try to fix the white noise problem. I have only owned version 8.0.1 since it was upgraded from 7.3.
I believe there is a possibility that it could be a plug-in causing this static/white noise. Is there a list of compatible plug-ins for my platform?


Broc

If this is 8.0.1 that you're using, then you're not experiencing the specific issue that Shan linked to above.

There are many, many causes for white noise - so many that I'm going to reference you to a thread that covers almost all of them. Yes, it's a lot of reading, but you should take the time to go through all of it so as to avoid situations that may lead to white noise.

http://duc.digidesign.com/showthread.php?t=211626

[sunburst79]

Originally Posted by PoPimp3069

< System >
Host Name: B-ROC
User: Broc
Workgroup: MSHOME

< Processor >
Model: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU T5500 @
1.66GHz
Speed: 1.66GHz
Cores per Processor: 2 Unit(s)
Threads per Core: 1 Unit(s)
Type: Mobile, Dual-Core
Internal Data Cache: 2x 32kB, Synchronous, Write-Thru, 8-way,
Inclusive, 64 byte line size
L2 On-board Cache: 2MB, ECC, Synchronous, ATC, 8-way, Inclusive,
64 byte line size, 2 threads sharing

< System >
Platform Compliance: Intel Centrino Mobile Technology
Mainboard: Dell Inc. 0KD882
Bus(es): ISA X-Bus PCI PCIe IMB USB FireWire/1394 i2c/
SMBus
Multi-Processor (MP) Support: No
Multi-Processor Advanced PIC (:Yes
System BIOS: AT/AT COMPATIBLE DELL - 27d70402
Total Memory: 1.99GB DDR2

< Chipset 1 >
Model: Dell 955XM/945GM/PM/GMS/940GML Express
Processor to DRAM Controller
Front Side Bus Speed: 4x 166MHz (664MHz)
Total Memory: 2GB DDR2
Shared Memory: 8MB
Memory Bus Speed: 4x 166MHz (664MHz)

< Video System >
Monitor/Panel: Plug and Play Monitor
Monitor/Panel: Plug and Play Monitor
Monitor/Panel: Plug and Play Monitor
Adapter: Mobile Intel(R) 945GM Express Chipset Family
Adapter: Mobile Intel(R) 945GM Express Chipset Family

< Physical Storage Devices >
FUJITSU MHW2080BH 80GB (SATA15:74.53GB (C:)
Seagate FreeAgent Go 320GB (US:298.09GB (G:)
SONY CDRWDVD CRX880A (ATAPI33,:406.58MB (D:)

< Logical Storage Devices >
Hard Disk (C:): 67.83GB (18.00GB, 27% Free Space) (NTFS) @
FUJITSU MHW2080BH 80GB (SATA150, NCQ, 8MB
Cache)
Audio CD (D:): 0bytes (CDFS) @ SONY CDRWDVD CRX880A (ATAPI33,
24x CD-R, 24x CD-W, 3x DVD-R, 2MB Cache)
External (G:): 298.09GB (15.10GB, 5% Free Space) (NTFS) @
Seagate FreeAgent Go 320GB (USB)

< Peripherals >
Serial/Parallel Port(s): 1 COM / 0 LPT
USB Controller/Hub: Intel(R) N10/ICH7 Family USB Universal Host
Controller - 27C8
USB Controller/Hub: Intel(R) N10/ICH7 Family USB Universal Host
Controller - 27C9
USB Controller/Hub: Intel(R) N10/ICH7 Family USB Universal Host
Controller - 27CA
USB Controller/Hub: Intel(R) N10/ICH7 Family USB Universal Host
Controller - 27CB
USB Controller/Hub: Intel(R) N10/ICH7 Family USB2 Enhanced Host
Controller - 27CC
USB Controller/Hub: USB Root Hub
USB Controller/Hub: USB Root Hub
USB Controller/Hub: USB Root Hub
USB Controller/Hub: USB Root Hub
USB Controller/Hub: USB Root Hub
USB Controller/Hub: USB Mass Storage Device
USB Controller/Hub: USB Composite Device
USB Controller/Hub: Digidesign Mbox 2 Firmware Updater
FireWire/1394 Controller/Hub: OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller
Keyboard: Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/
2 Keyboard
Mouse: Synaptics PS/2 Port Pointing Device
Mouse: Microsoft USB Wireless Mouse (IntelliPoint)
Human Interface: HID Non-User Input Data Filter (KB 911895)
Human Interface: USB Human Interface Device

< Communication Device(s) >
Device: Conexant HDA D110 MDC V.92 Modem

< Printers and Faxes >
Model: Send To OneNote 2007
Model: Microsoft XPS Document Writer
Model: HP Photosmart C7200 series
Model: hp officejet 4200 series
Model: Fax
Model: Auto HP Photosmart C7200 series on BUBBALOVE

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Mains (AC) Line Status: On-Line
Battery No 1: 100%

< Operating System(s) >
Windows System: Microsoft Windows XP (2002) Professional
Media Center 5.01.2600 (Service Pack 3)
Platform Compliance: Win32 x86

< Network Services >
Adapter: Dell Wireless 1390 WLAN Mini-Card

Since in this case the noise seems to be drive related I thought I would point out that USB drives for Audio is not supported. Recording to the System drive is not supported. It's recommended that you have 35% or so of free space on your drives. Whether any of these issues are related to your problem is anyones guess.

[PoPimp3069]

I just discovered that even during a file bounce the white noise is heard and established on the final .wav file after bouncing is complete.
I have read on other threads that the white noise isn't a problem during bouncing files, but for me it seems to be. WHY? I'm seriously considering another DAW. I'm so familiar with pro tools and the way it works that I don't want to rid of it. What a dilemma! Are there any prospect dates for the update that is supposed to fix this annoyance?


Broc

[MikeLip]

USB drives are not supported. You dont have the throughput. Check the system requirements for Pro Tools.
Mike.