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Does Pro Tools LE Utilize Hyperthreading in the new Mac Pro's?
And do we know if PT LE 8 will run on snow Leopard?
I'm considering buying the new Mac Pro, but now if PT isn't ready.
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Re: Does Pro Tools LE Utilize Hyperthreading in the new Mac Pro's?
Great question. Hey, do you know how to utilize hyper threading? I was considering using your expertise, but if you're not ready....
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Re: Does Pro Tools LE Utilize Hyperthreading in the new Mac Pro's?
Hyperthreading is used by applications that support hyperthreading, you don't have to ask it to do it, it just does.
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Re: Does Pro Tools LE Utilize Hyperthreading in the new Mac Pro's?
I'd vote for you but how would the company make a profit to be around in another year or two. You could offshore the software development to India ad the hardware production to China like everybody does (or maybe they already do that). You could give all this away at a loss with hopes that customers will buy other Digidesign products, but you just gave all that ways too. It doesn't make good business sense but like I said, I'd vote for you.
Monaco for CEO...Monaco for CEO...Monaco for CEO! By the way, I suspect support for Snow Leopard is a ways off. It seems that getting Protools to be 64-bit is a big challenge. I hope to be wrong but history has shown that Digidesign is not the fastest company to rewrite the core code.
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Re: Does Pro Tools LE Utilize Hyperthreading in the new Mac Pro's?
I believe that apple will come out with Logic 9 concurrent with the release of Snow Leopard. It will be 64 bit. How long will it take PT to catch up?
Either that or the reason that Logic has been stuck at 8.02 for 2 years is that basically it's abandonware. |
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Re: Does Pro Tools LE Utilize Hyperthreading in the new Mac Pro's?
Ummm.....Avids current CEO understands that PT has been multi threaded since 7.0 (And knows better than to advertise their lack of knowlage by making two different threads on the same subject)
Anyone one worth their salt would know whether or not PTLE is currently running on Snow Leopard. Maybe before you become CEO you should sign up to Beta test for both companies and come to your own conclusions. Official Digi support will come sometime after Snow Leopard is actually released as the code may still (and certainly will) change. To Digis credit they will test it as thoroughly as possible before approving it. There also seems to be a bit of a misunderstanding about multithreading/Hyperthreading and 64bit which are completely unrelated. Digi has said about all they can say on recoding PTLE to be bit neutral (or 64bit) and that task will take a very long time as all plugins will need to be recoded along with PT and the full AVID product line. At this moment their are no real new applications in Snow Leopard. No new applications that run exclusively on Snow Leopard, It's currently not tied to any new "Must Have" hardware and other than a few high end rendering/encoding/media editing apps that will take advantage of its release is going to be the non event of the year....the fact that Apple is only charging 29.99 for the upgrade tells you that. I'm not trying to Pooh-Pooh the upgrade as I think what they have done is great but its not going to wash the car, take out the trash or make your smile brighter either. You can get all excited about Snow Leopard but if its done right you will probably never notice it unless your rendering video or running Logic. As it sits right now there is no mandatory reason to upgrade.
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Re: Does Pro Tools LE Utilize Hyperthreading in the new Mac Pro's?
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Re: Does Pro Tools LE Utilize Hyperthreading in the new Mac Pro's?
Working with Apple can be a nightmare. Company I used to work for made Mac products one was key to Apple dev market, but we also made Mac utilities one Apple wasn't happy about. So you think with a key product Apple would be offering all the info we needed, but it was sporadic. Then other other product they weren't happy about they went out of their way to hose us with every update they put out. Then I won't even talk about what Steve Jobs was like when he had Next. I worked for company that the media said we Microsoft hated us and our enemy. Yet we'd see Bill Gates and others on our campus a few times a year and we got advance info for all our dev from MS. Things aren't how the media portray them.
Hyperthread (HT) can be a hinderance more than a help when your software is already threaded. In IT we would turn HT off because its slowed servers down. HT makes one core appear to be two, but its still one core. It really isn't something app developer deal with. Developer just write threaded code and the OS is what is scheduling those threads and dealing with the pseudo cores. So HT can create a bottleneck between the OS and CPU leaving the app waiting. Writing threaded code is something the average programmer sucks at. Over use threading and you kill performance because of threading overhead. A lot of programmer can write threaded code, but designing and debugging good threaded code is a Black Art. So Monaco before you become CEO you have a lot to learn about the industry and R&D.
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There were some great points made about HT in the replies, most of them quite accurate. It's not easy writing truly efficient HT code - most of what GCD does benefits non-time-critical apps, not ones like Pro Tools or other time-sensitive applications. With that said - we hear your other complaints. You know ADC is high on the list. As for a free Mbox 2 Micro....that may be a ways off yet... |
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