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Re: Dealing with fx on various VI's and Mixing
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Re VI processing: use whatever tool works, whenever you want to. Similar age-old questions: EQ/comp on the way in, or record flat? Print elec gtr with stompboxes and amps or not? Commit now or wait for later? If a patch or processor or effect is essential to the inspiration, then print it whenever/however you get it. Personally, I like to leave most (not all) processing for the final mix, although I setup sounds constantly while tracking. If the tracking sounds work in the mix, I leave it. If not, I like to be able to tweak it. If you plan to send tracks out for mixing, you might want to send un-processed tracks AND processed tracks and let the mixer choose. No rules, whatever works. My 2 cents!!!
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Re: Dealing with fx on various VI's and Mixing
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Re: Dealing with fx on various VI's and Mixing
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I tend to like to leave all fx processing for the final mix, too. But the reality is that some patches on some VI's just sound so good with the VI's built in fx, especially delay and reverbs. But then I'm always freezing, unfreezing, tweaking, re-freezing. But I guess you're probably right...whatever works. As our friend Dave (Albee) always likes to say: "If it sounds good, it IS good!"
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My own favorite meme is: "the better I drink, the more I mix"
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Re: Dealing with fx on various VI's and Mixing
Also known as cocktails
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It's not that I think they sound bad (some in Serum are incredible), but as I'm producing music, having too many of these effects going at once on different instruments introduces so much mud and clouds my head while working. If I end up wanting them, I can go back and hit the button in the plugin to turn em back on. Also, I can't commit to save my life. |
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Re: Dealing with fx on various VI's and Mixing
Hi. I hope it’s not too late to ask question here. I enjoyed reading through this thread and getting a sense of “community“. I’m very new to PT (less than a month) so your discussion prompted me to ask this.
As I read I noticed a few terms being used that I hope you can clarify. Is there any difference between commit, print and freeze? Or are these just different ways of saying the same thing? I’m guessing that “committing” is when you do a final mix. Am I close? Thanks. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Re: Dealing with fx on various VI's and Mixing
is there any difference between commit, print and freeze?
These days, there is a difference. FREEZE is a way to render a temporary audio file so you can free up system resources(by disabling plugins). Downside is the frozen audio file cannot be edited. PRINT(and COMMIT) will create a new audio file that has processing embedded(IOW, if you commit a track with Melodyne, EQ with cuts or boosts, and heavy compression, the resulting audio file includes all that processing(so its never a bad idea to save the original, even if you think you may not need to revisit it). Another thing about FREEZE, sometimes, the frozen(temporary) audio doesn't get included if you take a session and move/copy to another system(like if you send a session via Dropbox to a friend in another state to have the add something). Just something to be aware of. Having used both here, I prefer using COMMIT over FREEZE(though I almost always COMMIT up to a certain plugin as opposed to using COMMIT on the entire track(including VOLUME and PAN settings and/or automation)
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Re: Dealing with fx on various VI's and Mixing
Thanks, Dave!
So I looked in PT and found Freeze, Commit and Bounce under the Tracks menu. From my first take on this thread I thought you guys were using these terms to describe various "techniques" that you've adopted. I didn't realize that they are actual "functions" offered by the software. Thanks for your very helpful explanation!
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Nice thing about Serum is you can have the Serum FX rack as just FX too!! So not only use them on the Serum patches, but on anything else like any other fx! Brilliant option on Xfer's part to allow that! I wish Synapse Audio would do the same with their Dune 3 FX options! Some of them are quite nice!
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