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Old 07-10-2017, 04:24 AM
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Default Waves plugins... What's the use of standalone versions?

So, lots of Waves plugins also come in standalone software versions, sitting on our desktops and (I'm assuming) never getting used from over there. What's the point in having those standalone versions like MultiRack, Element, Electric88, GTR Solo, etc, if they can be used perfectly well from inside Pro Tools?

Do you just delete them from desktop?
I'm a guy who always keeps his desktop clean, with hardly anything on it, except the recycle bin and one or two frequently used program links.

What do you do with them?
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Old 07-10-2017, 05:16 AM
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I never use them, but I can imagine someone that only plays live stuff would want to use the standalone app instead of paying for PT or LX
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Old 07-10-2017, 06:32 AM
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Default Re: Waves plugins... What's the use of standalone versions?

Another use for them is when you have multiple computers and interfaces. You could connect them via MIDI so you could have one computer running your DAW and loaded with lots of CPU hungry effects, then have another computer (or computers) running the stand alone versions just like you'd run an actual hardware synth. Then the VI's processing wouldn't be tying up the recording DAW.

I just bought Waves Element 2.0 and while the 1.0 mode and presets work fine from within my DAW, a couple of the 2.0 mode presets maxed out my CPU when run from within Pro Tools. System Usage guage went to 100% and audio was breaking up/pausing. Looks like I need to move my Element license to a different memory stick and break out my other computer and interface... or just not use Element ever again which is probably what I'll end up doing.
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Element is a " not that great " plugin and I would say don't buy it as the sounds are old and useless in modern music and it is a CPU hog galore. Useless.
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Old 07-10-2017, 07:20 AM
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Element is a " not that great " plugin and I would say don't buy it as the sounds are old and useless in modern music and it is a CPU hog galore. Useless.
This. Even though Jordan Rudess has some nice videos...
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Old 07-10-2017, 09:23 AM
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I never use them, but I can imagine someone that only plays live stuff would want to use the standalone app instead of paying for PT or LX
I don't understand why I never thought of that. In my naive mind, everyone is using Pro Tools.
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Old 07-10-2017, 12:14 PM
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Default Re: Waves plugins... What's the use of standalone versions?

Multirack is for live sound, it's a great way to breath new live into older digital consoles.

http://www.waves.com/mixers-racks/mu...n-to-multirack

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So, lots of Waves plugins also come in standalone software versions, sitting on our desktops and (I'm assuming) never getting used from over there. What's the point in having those standalone versions like MultiRack, Element, Electric88, GTR Solo, etc, if they can be used perfectly well from inside Pro Tools?

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I'm a guy who always keeps his desktop clean, with hardly anything on it, except the recycle bin and one or two frequently used program links.

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Old 08-03-2017, 02:32 AM
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Element is a " not that great " plugin and I would say don't buy it as the sounds are old and useless in modern music and it is a CPU hog galore. Useless.
Actually, Element may have only 2 oscillators but they are the richest, most vibrant i have heard in any software synth. Most synths would have use multiple oscillators, and unison and some saturation to try to get this rich, but it doesn't quite get there.

Element 2 upped the ante by improving the all over quality and adding more configurability. there';s still a few features missing, but this is very much my goto synth for a lot of things. Just cant beat those oscillators, not in the vast array of synths i have heard!!
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What do you do with them?
These are more for artists than for engineers, to play a virtual instrument without using a DAW. You plug in a MIDI keyboard, run e.g. Electric88 standalone, and play the gig, or do your exercise, or mess with it to come up with new ideas, etc. Thus you dont have to own a DAW to use them.
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