Reaper VS. Protools

[pixeltarian]

so I have pro tools 8mp, but just ended up learning reaper while i was saving for pro tools (as the profire 2626 emptied my bank account). I'd like to know what benefits there are to using pro tools over reaper. If you knew someone who never touched a DAW, why would you recommend PT over reaper?

on a 1 year old mac (2.66 intel core 2 duo, 4GB ram, running snow leopard) pro tools is very slow and has lots of playback issues. I would actually like using pro tools if it was smooth as a top. mostly it is playback issues, and crashing. I would actually be surprised if I closed out of pro tools because I wanted to and it didn't crash. are there some config things to do on macs? why might it be performing so poorly?

[tamasdragon]

Because pro tools is better!

So, seriously. If you have sooo many problems with pt, than something is broken with your setup. But without further info about your setup, it is almost impossible to help you.

Reaper is a fantastic daw, but imho not as good as pt. For many, it is even better than pt. It is always a personal decision, which is more suits you, so don't wait that a few person from here can help you out, because it is actually your homework.

In the meantime, you can give us more info, so maybe we can help you to make your pt system stable.

[darkdream]

hey mate i been in a lot of digital workstations and i know reaper
so i am gonna do a pro /cons list on both pro tools and reaper
reaper pro´s
highly customary
skins a lot of em
fast development
and stable and can be run from a usb stick
and if one need a feature there is properly a script that does it
cheap license
good community around it

con´s
no instruments whit it
medium mix and mastering plug-ins
and in my opinion way to complex work-flow

pro tools 8 le
pro´s
very good interface
easy workflow
standard in the industry
and top of the line
mix and mastering plugins
instruments that is some of the greatest
some great training sites both on line and as dvd

cons
expensive
at times unstable (not for me)
and is only working whit there own sound cards
best regard me

[abt]

Originally Posted by darkdream

hey mate i been in a lot of digital workstations and i know reaper
so i am gonna do a pro /cons list on both pro tools and reaper
reaper pro´s
highly customary
skins a lot of em
fast development
and stable and can be run from a usb stick
and if one need a feature there is properly a script that does it
cheap license
good community around it

con´s
no instruments whit it
medium mix and mastering plug-ins
and in my opinion way to complex work-flow

pro tools 8 le
pro´s
very good interface
easy workflow
standard in the industry
and top of the line
mix and mastering plugins
instruments that is some of the greatest
some great training sites both on line and as dvd

cons
expensive
at times unstable (not for me)
and is only working whit there own sound cards
best regard me

Here's a few PT LE cons that I've been using reaper for
- Limited track count
- No automatic delay compensation
- No auto fades
- No true slip editing

[RettRobinson]

Originally Posted by abt

Here's a few PT LE cons that I've been using reaper for
- Limited track count
- No automatic delay compensation
- No auto fades
- No true slip editing

Well not completly ture.. Limited track count, yes. ADC - much needed. But, fades are under edit then all the way at the bottom of the collum, and the slip editing is at the top left hand corner beside grid mode and when the tracks are stretched out they can be moved as freely and precise as you can get them.

[pixeltarian]

alright then. I'll look into getting a FW drive. I do have a loaner Glyph drive that I could use. it's a friend's but I'm sure he'll be ok with me using it for now.

here's a question:

I only have a single FW800 port on the imac. my interface is FW400 so I have to adapt it. which should go first the drive or the interface? does it matter?

[Shan]

Originally Posted by RettRobinson

Well not completly ture.. Limited track count, yes. ADC - much needed. But, fades are under edit then all the way at the bottom of the collum, and the slip editing is at the top left hand corner beside grid mode and when the tracks are stretched out they can be moved as freely and precise as you can get them.

Auto fades and Slip editing are entirely different features that abt was referring to and something that Pro Tools doesn't have.

Shane

[RussUK]

Originally Posted by abt

Here's a few PT LE cons that I've been using reaper for
- Limited track count
- No automatic delay compensation
- No auto fades
- No true slip editing

You spoil sport, Pro Tools LE was looking so good until you mentioned the above list!

BTW I needed to tune some vocals yesterday, so I exported the audio files from PT, inserted REAPER in as a ReWire instrument and then dragged the audio into REAPER and used reatune for automatic autotune for free and then hey presto!

[DonaldM]

Originally Posted by RussUK

You spoil sport, Pro Tools LE was looking so good until you mentioned the above list!

BTW I needed to tune some vocals yesterday, so I exported the audio files from PT, inserted REAPER in as a ReWire instrument and then dragged the audio into REAPER and used reatune for automatic autotune for free and then hey presto!

Well, that's one way to do it. But I still like using that little Melodyne freebie plug-in we can get with PT 8.0 Works every time and I like the visual interface...makes it easy to pinpoint exactly what I want to fix. I just tuned up a couple of spots in a vox track on Mon with it and even I can't remember what I fixed with it when I listen back now.

[abt]

Originally Posted by RussUK

You spoil sport, Pro Tools LE was looking so good until you mentioned the above list!

BTW I needed to tune some vocals yesterday, so I exported the audio files from PT, inserted REAPER in as a ReWire instrument and then dragged the audio into REAPER and used reatune for automatic autotune for free and then hey presto!

hahaha I know what you mean!

I lurk here often but don't post very much. I'm still pretty new to PT, less than a year, even newer to reaper, only weeks. I do participate on other forums and almost daily users are either using reaper in conjunction with PT or dropping PT all together. I love PT but I have to admit that they need to lift their game because they're not even on par any more they're falling behind. It sucks, I don't want to learn another DAW, but for a few bucks to get a bunch of features the PT should have it's really a no brainer.

PS thanks for the autotune tip.