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Advice: Apollo 16 + PT12 + new MacPro?
Hello smart people--
I run a pro-ish project studio that keeps quite busy. I run PT8 HD96 x2 Accel (TDM) system on my Mac Pro 3,1 running 10.8.6. Trusty, yet crusty. I need to update to PT12 for various clients. I need to be able to track 16 analog channels at a time occasionally (live musicians), so low latency and quality AD-DA conversion is key. I have used ProTools and ProTools hardware since 1994, but the upgrade path is too old that Avid'll treat me like any other newbie schlubb; and since their hardware is too expensive anyway, I’m looking at workarounds with 3rd party interfaces. How does this look: MacPro (Trashcan) UAD Apollo 16 UAD-2 QUAD DSP Accelerator ProTools 12 software What am I missing? Do I need more DSP? I don’t see anyone else with this setup, and wondering why. I'd appreciate any insight. Thank you for your time. |
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Re: Advice: Apollo 16 + PT12 + new MacPro?
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How much CPU do you think you will need for native plugins and VIs? Do you have some experience with UAD plugins already? Why do you want them? For use with tracking in the UAD console? Because you like them? I just don't want you assuming you need "DSP" because you come from a TDM system or you thinking a UAD DSP plugin is at all like a TDM plugin, they are not, they are *high-latency* unless used in the interface DSP as a console plugin. I assume you mean the UAD Satellite Quad Thunderbolt, otherwise you would need a Thunderbolt PCIe chassis for the UAD Quad card. |
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Re: Advice: Apollo 16 + PT12 + new MacPro?
The black Trashcan, the ones they started making in late 2013.
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I think currently they're all housed on a 500GB drive that's in one oof my Mac 3,1 expansion bays. (sigh---I'm gonna miss expansion bays). I'm going to have to invest in at least two external ThBlt drives. I'm old-school and was trained to keep the session data separate from the system drive, and although i hear that's not necessary anymore, I'll probably maintain that practice. Quote:
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Right, thus I'm leaning toward the Quad Thunderbolt. Apparently it's no less robust than the PCIe card. Thanks Darrly RAMM |
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Re: Advice: Apollo 16 + PT12 + new MacPro?
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Part of the challenge here is you are talking about swapping everything at once, computer, Pro Tools (significant upgrade), all plugins TDM and RTAS, interface, etc. It might be useful to try to find a way to do things a step at a time. Trouble with those options is if you need to move up to Pro Tools HD and HD Native Thunderbolt to keep using your interfaces, and that seems like a waste of money. And you can't use a Thunderbolt UAD Quad or Thunderbolt interface on your old Mac Pro. If you do go UAD I'd certainly not buy the Quad card/Thunderbolt box until you know you need it. A minimal early test might be to put another boot disk on your current Mac Pro cheese grater and play with Pro Tools 12 (just get a months subscription to try?). Upgrading your current Mac Pro (new CPU(s) if that is an option, max out memory and install SATA or PCIe SSDs) may be an option worth considering, with Pro Tools HD Native (upgrade software and buy a HDN card on EBay). I'd at least scope out doing that until Apple updates the Trashcans. Quote:
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Re: Advice: Apollo 16 + PT12 + new MacPro?
If you already own and use a bunch of Waves plugins, then I'd suggest going the Digigrid Route. If so, you'll save a ton of money with I/O units as you can buy used 192 I/O's or Apogee AD-DA 16's.
If you already own a bunch of UAD plugging, then the Apollo route makes sense, if you don't own any, yes, they are very good, but they are also very expensive.......
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HD Native Pcie, PTHD 11, PT12 Vanilla, Omni, Lynx Aurora 16, 192 I/O (16 in/8 out), 24 Fader D-Command, lots of preamps and compressors. MacPro 5.1 (12) Core (2009 MacPro 8 Core Upgraded to a 12 Core MacPro), 56 Gig Ram, SSD System & 3 - 2TB Drives, OSX 10.9.5, Windows 10 Via Bootcamp |
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Re: Advice: Apollo 16 + PT12 + new MacPro?
OP, if you are checking out the Apollo and Satellite UA give away, thats a great deal! Certainly the UAD plugs are more expensive, but they- a lot of the new ones- are amazing. Currently UA has an amazing sale going on AND! when you register new UAD products UA is kind enough to give you some plug in vouchers.
I say go for it!! I am still in HD TDM 8.1.1 land using HD5 system and a UA Satellite quad FW. I am still on 10.6.8. How was 10.8.6 ? Or did you swap a couple of digits around? |
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