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Re: snare mic bleed question.
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I would be concerned about keeping the original dynamic of the drum recording. Or is your replacement going off of some sort of midi information? I'm not a fan of using electronic drumkits, yet they have dynamics built in through the midi coding. I can understand using drum replacement on something like a kick or a tom, but snare? Is this why you mix in the replacement with the original track?
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Re: snare mic bleed question.
Cool...I'll check it out.
UPDATE:- So I ended up doing a bit of research on drum replacement software and was quite suprised by what I found. You're correct Albee in saying that the natural dynamic of the drums are preserved through the fancy pants algorythms used to basically turn a visual (wave file) into something akin to a midi file. So the different velocities the drummer hits the skin at in the recording translates into the drum replacement. I ended up getting the Steven Slate Trigger software due to favourable reviews etc. I must say that when used sparingly this is a great tool for cleaning up drum recordings. Don't get me wrong I still think a 100% genuine recording sounds better, but the thing is that genuine recording needs to be done in a high end studio on a great kit with a great drummer to sound better. For the rest of us there are programs such as these.
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Re: snare mic bleed question.
Doesn't this take forever?! I can't imagine sitting there replacing all the hits in the song... I mean I know about tab to transient but GEEZ!
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Re: snare mic bleed question.
Hey Albee.....is there any trick to making up the samples for your own kit? Do you need to record a number of different hits per drum for different velocities etc? I'm a complete novice for this stuff obvisouly...
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Re: snare mic bleed question.
Since most of my stuff is pop/rock/country, I get away with single samples. I made a whole batch of them by recording my favorite sounds from SD2 and ezdrummer. I even did some stereo(with ambience) samples too. I'm not really much farther along than you are. I know that some of the replacement plugins allow for multiple samples, but I haven't really worked that part out yet(not sure if my Ver. 4 Drumagog does it). It looks like the new Ver. 5 does so I may have to upgrade
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Re: snare mic bleed question.
Cool, thanks for that.
Slate trigger is able to trigger multiple samples at once....I think up to six. What I might do is put the Zeppelin snare sample in (nice sharp crack with lots of rattle), mix in a larger snare sound for extra bottom end, then mix in a room mic sample for a more natural reverb. This enables me to produce many different snare sounds from the same sample packs etc. By reading this forum, and learning about things like drum replacement (I always thought it was something very dodgy with average results) I'm now producing a drum sound that is drawing in clients. I strongly believe sample enhancement is something to make a good recording better though, not to be relied upon, which is what gave me original perception in this area.
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