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Old 10-16-2019, 03:12 PM
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Old 10-16-2019, 03:24 PM
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Old 10-16-2019, 03:36 PM
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Maybe cause Nuendo is a very capable and popular Post Daw and I know many using it before PT.
Agreed. I've mixed a few shorts/interstitials with it, and am looking to make the full jump soon. We're a PT house, and usually do not send sessions out or hand off work between mixers, but if we did, I can always export an AAF from Nuendo to Tools.

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Old 10-16-2019, 07:00 PM
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My initial reaction was less polite than yours.
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Old 10-17-2019, 12:14 PM
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My initial reaction was less polite than yours.
And mine may have been even less polite than yours. My mouth dropped when I got to the end of that document. "That's IT?" Yep, that's it. What is Avid doing? And what exactly is it that we're paying for?

Catalina will keep them tied up for months, and updates will focus on compatibility. Meanwhile, PT feels the same today as it did a few years ago. Yawn? Yeah, that's uber-polite. I'm throwing ***** over here.
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Old 10-17-2019, 12:24 PM
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My initial reaction was less polite than yours.
HA! I guess I am at the acceptance stage of grieving for Pro Tools. This board is starting to feel more like group therapy for the abused(us paying customers). "Hi my name is 'Greg'", "Hi Greg".

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Old 10-17-2019, 07:10 PM
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Like many, I've come to accept that I am paying $399 a year to use Pro Tools. Updates seem to be a nice welcome surprise. OS compatibility is also a nice surprise but at the end of the day, we are paying to use the latest version of Pro Tools, whatever that means. $3,999 over 10 years is no small price, especially for those that don't make any money using the software. I think many of us are stuck, because so many of our songs or (for some) clients songs are tied to Pro Tools. Transferring them over to another DAW is extremely time consuming and not always easy to do so we stick with Pro Tools. So yeah, many of us have just accepted that although the fee is unfair, what is the alternative? If I let my subscription lapse, eventually I won't be able to open my files if I ever plan on updating my OS, which I do down the road, in a year or so.

I'd estimate that since Avid started the subscription model, updates have decreased at least 50% or more. The difference between Pro Tools 8, 9, 10, 11 and 12 were significant. What have we gotten in the last few years with the subscription? Not a whole lot. Not even the equivalent of a jump between the old numbering system. Avid is definitely on the way to irrelevance and bankruptcy. Why? Because the new generation of audio engineers don't use it. Avid is living off the older generation of audio engineers. I don't even know what Avid or Pro Tools will look like in 10 years. Who knows it might get bought out by Apple or someone with the resources to do something with it. If Apple bought Pro Tools, they could own not only the bedroom musicians, but they could own the professional users. Maybe with their resources they could resurrect Pro Tools to its former glory. I imagine if something like that happened, it would be merged with Logic. Or maybe UA could buy Pro Tools. Something needs to change and Avid doesn't seem equipped to make the leap.
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Old 10-17-2019, 10:16 PM
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I'm confused. Why are you stuck? If at any point you buy a permanent license, you don't need to continue to pay Avid anything and you will always have backward compatibility for old projects. I stopped upgrading a couple of years back at v12.8, and can open old projects just fine. And yes, I switched to a different DAW, but I still have PT here when I need it, just not the latest version.

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Like many, I've come to accept that I am paying $399 a year to use Pro Tools. Updates seem to be a nice welcome surprise. OS compatibility is also a nice surprise but at the end of the day, we are paying to use the latest version of Pro Tools, whatever that means. $3,999 over 10 years is no small price, especially for those that don't make any money using the software. I think many of us are stuck, because so many of our songs or (for some) clients songs are tied to Pro Tools. Transferring them over to another DAW is extremely time consuming and not always easy to do so we stick with Pro Tools. So yeah, many of us have just accepted that although the fee is unfair, what is the alternative? If I let my subscription lapse, eventually I won't be able to open my files if I ever plan on updating my OS, which I do down the road, in a year or so.

I'd estimate that since Avid started the subscription model, updates have decreased at least 50% or more. The difference between Pro Tools 8, 9, 10, 11 and 12 were significant. What have we gotten in the last few years with the subscription? Not a whole lot. Not even the equivalent of a jump between the old numbering system. Avid is definitely on the way to irrelevance and bankruptcy. Why? Because the new generation of audio engineers don't use it. Avid is living off the older generation of audio engineers. I don't even know what Avid or Pro Tools will look like in 10 years. Who knows it might get bought out by Apple or someone with the resources to do something with it. If Apple bought Pro Tools, they could own not only the bedroom musicians, but they could own the professional users. Maybe with their resources they could resurrect Pro Tools to its former glory. I imagine if something like that happened, it would be merged with Logic. Or maybe UA could buy Pro Tools. Something needs to change and Avid doesn't seem equipped to make the leap.
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Old 10-17-2019, 11:09 PM
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Are you guys not printing your tracks for archiving?
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Old 10-18-2019, 09:41 AM
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I say Bye Bye subscribe i will not renew next month , all features are only for Ultimate , Athmos or postprod .... I have a 2019.06 with I'm satisfied ... I will not continue to pay features that I'll never use in my live ciao arrivedercci ...
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