Definitive answer on CPTK1 upgrade to PT11HD?

[Jon_Atkinson]

I'm really sorry if this has already been answered... I've tried to keep tabs on the other CPTK discussions elsewhere, but the answer to this question still eludes me.
Perhaps, can someone post a link here if this question has already been answered?
I've seen contradictory reports on whether CPTK1 will be eligible for the upgrade to HD11....
I've only seen reference to CPTK2, and even the Ideascale regarding the upgrade says "CPTK2".
There has been much conjecture that the ilok licences are the same for both 1 and 2, and this may very well be the case.... But it would be great to see something definitive that CPTK1 users are not going to be left in the cold.
Has anyone stumbled across an explicit answer to this?
Many thanks

[crizdee]

Originally Posted by Jon_Atkinson

I'm really sorry if this has already been answered... I've tried to keep tabs on the other CPTK discussions elsewhere, but the answer to this question still eludes me.
Perhaps, can someone post a link here if this question has already been answered?
I've seen contradictory reports on whether CPTK1 will be eligible for the upgrade to HD11....
I've only seen reference to CPTK2, and even the Ideascale regarding the upgrade says "CPTK2".
There has been much conjecture that the ilok licences are the same for both 1 and 2, and this may very well be the case.... But it would be great to see something definitive that CPTK1 users are not going to be left in the cold.
Has anyone stumbled across an explicit answer to this?
Many thanks

Hi,

Yes CPTK 1 can be upgraded the same as CPTK 2 $999

I'll see if I can find something official! But it was one of the first things to be questioned and answered with a yes.


Chris

[Brock Mixwell]

Originally Posted by crizdee

Hi,

Yes CPTK 1 can be upgraded the same as CPTK 2 $999

I'll see if I can find something official! But it was one of the first things to be questioned and answered with a yes.


Chris

Actually they state VERY clearly in this video @ 10mins

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alcPOrCfvnc

That the upgrade is CPTK2 ONLY

[Jon_Atkinson]

Much appreciated.
Thanks mate

[Righty27]

... and it would appear that, to upgrade, the CPTK will need to be registered with Avid i.e. unlikely if purchased 'used'.

[Jon_Atkinson]

Originally Posted by Righty27

... and it would appear that, to upgrade, the CPTK will need to be registered with Avid i.e. unlikely if purchased 'used'.

Ok, that doesn't affect me, but for the sake of clarity in this thread do you have a link to that?

[crizdee]

Hi,

The initial announcement did say CPTK2 but in later questions with Avid they said CPTK1 would also be included.

The FAQ for PT11 just says CPTK (Doesn't stipulate 1 or 2)...

Q: Why isn’t the Complete Production Toolkit supported with Pro Tools 11?
A: To ensure the greatest level of reliability and performance to customers who need extremely high tracks and channel counts, the premium set of tools previously available to Complete Production Toolkit owners will only be available to customers using the latest Pro Tools|HD family hardware with Pro Tools HD software. If you own the CPTK along with Pro Tools, you will have the opportunity to upgrade to Pro Tools HD 11 software for $999.


R.E. The upgrade path! i haven't seen anything official yet, But i believe that previous updates for CPTK and DVTK etc were only available to registered users. but i could be just an ilok surender. guess we'll know soon eneough.


Chris

[kazuomik]

Originally Posted by Righty27

... and it would appear that, to upgrade, the CPTK will need to be registered with Avid i.e. unlikely if purchased 'used'.

Originally Posted by Jon_Atkinson

Ok, that doesn't affect me, but for the sake of clarity in this thread do you have a link to that?

http://duc.avid.com/showthread.php?t=337302
http://duc.avid.com/showpost.php?p=2028445&postcount=3

Originally Posted by DFT

Thanks, nst7.

I called the transfer desk this morning and got this information.

1) The CPTK is considered a 'plugin,' and as such cannot be transferred/ reregistered.

While you might be able to transfer the license via iLok ... which is in question as apparently license transfer through iLok is also subject to the software vendor's policies, you would have no upgrade path as you wouldn't be eligible to purchase the upgrade.

2) The only way a CPTK could be sold and registered by a new owner with full upgrade benefits would be if the authorization number had never been registered with an Avid account.

Good luck finding #2!

DFT

[Jon_Atkinson]

Thanks Kazuomik

Just in the last half hour I've had an email from my dealer (KMR in London) on this matter.
They've been at Messe this weekend and had asked AVID exactly this question on my behalf.

I'm afraid the answer given to my dealer *this weekend* by AVID staff was that CPTK1 would not be supported to upgrade to PT11HD.

So we have utterly contradictory answers from AVID on this subject, even in the last couple of days.

Crizdee, like you I read the wording of the AVID statement to include CPTK1...But I do feel it would help if they could change the wording of that sentence to be "If you own CPTK, either version 1 or 2"... Just for the avoidance of any doubt on the matter.
It would also help if they could be specific about the used transfer of licence issue too.

It really hasn't helped that AVID have more than once contradicted themselves on this.... However we are all human, and mistakes are made....
But, surely with a quick change to the wording on the AVID site (to remove any possible ambiguity), this could easily be cleared up and we'd all know exactly where we stand.

[nigelpry]

If it gets to the point where CPTK is no use to me in PT11, i.e. if Avid don't change tack on CPTK's withdrawal, then I'll try to recoup some of the CPTK purchase cost, as the licence will be of limited use to me (i.e. only if I run PT10).

The comment that Avid considers CPTK licences to be like plugins, and does not allow such licences to be transferred, well are we sure about that? I thought plugin licences can be transferred.

Anyway, it would be good if Avid allowed the CPTK licence to be transferred, and used by someone else wanting to upgrade. After all, if they don't allow it, they'll simply be losing a sale.

If Avid don't allow transfers, then there would still be some residual value in the CPTK licence for people sticking with PT10 or earlier. And if doing a iLok transfer is scuppered, well I could always place it on a V1 iLok (should be plenty of those knocking around seeing as PT11 requires everyone to get a V2 iLok) and sell it with the iLok. Not ideal, but an optiom.

As I say though, I remain hopeful that Avid will come up with a properly equitable solution.