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Old 12-31-2002, 07:01 PM
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Default Re: Digi001, Lucid A/D, FMR RNP, FMR RNC...for your review

I just orderd my RNP yesterday. I expect it to come next week or so. I can't wait!
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Old 01-02-2003, 01:14 AM
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Default Re: Digi001, Lucid A/D, FMR RNP, FMR RNC...for your review

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I DO appreciate your taking the time to make a comparison and post it but it would be nice if they were both the same song with same insrumentation, effects,etc. It would be much easier to hear the actual difference made. I'm sure it sounds much better but a matching A/B would be more helpful as to specifics. Thanks again for sharing your results. I'm going to be needing this type of gear soon.
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Old 01-02-2003, 02:12 AM
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Mighty Burner
I DO appreciate your taking the time to make a comparison and post it but it would be nice if they were both the same song with same insrumentation, effects,etc. It would be much easier to hear the actual difference made. I'm sure it sounds much better but a matching A/B would be more helpful as to specifics. Thanks again for sharing your results. I'm going to be needing this type of gear soon.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">lynxxx,

if you put headphones on (even without) and click on both links, minimize them both and mute between the two, you can really tell even though there diferent tunes.

the overall depth and crispness is very obvious. seems wider also. i have crappy computer speakers for my comp. and I can still hear the difference. certainly a lot to be said for better converters, i just wish we could do some a/b on apogee, lucid, RME, Swissonic, Mindprint, all side by side on the same three or so instruments.

A cat on the PC side did a nice a/b of an accoustic guitar playing the exact same thing performed twice, using the mindprint 2 channel mic pre/converter verses the stock 001 pre/converters. you can here it in the same way, depth, crispness, and width.

throw some headphones on and check it out!

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Old 01-02-2003, 07:16 AM
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MB- I have that exact setup minus the a/d, and thanks for the great tunes. I really did hear a difference and I'm going to get either the Lucid or RME converter. I'm leaning towards the great quality of the two channel Lucid. How do you decide which tracks to run through it? For example, four on drums, do you run snare and kick, or I see you would choose overheads. Thanks for the post though, it was really helpful. [img]images/icons/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 01-02-2003, 09:11 AM
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Hi Guys -

Lynxx - I realize that this isn't a real good, A/B, controlled typed of example...I agree that it should be the same tune, and similiar performance. When find some time, I will try and track another bassline over one of those tunes, one with the 001 pres and one with the FMR straight into the 001, all while bypassing the Lucid. I just wanted to throw something out there for peeps who were interested...plus I was stoked about the new gear! lol

H-man - the way I am approaching this new 2 channel front end is to use it whenever I am recording one track at a time (which is most of the time)...unless, of course, I wanted a more lo-fi sound, then I might opt to use the ART or 001, but I don't see that happening anytime soon! If I WERE to record multiple sources at once, then I would dedicate the Lucid/FMR chain to the most important tracks in the bunch. i.e. - with drums, I feel the overheads are the priority in terms of imaging and the overall drum sound, so I feel those should be your best mics running through your best pres and converters...for me, that's a pair on shure sm81's into the FMR and Lucid stuff. If you get a great sound happening there, it's easy to augment it by sprinkling in your close mic'd snare, kick, and toms to taste...and you won't destroy the great sound of the overheads. To do the reverse, in my experience, does not work nearly as well, and I have had to skimp alot when recording over the years!

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Old 01-03-2003, 07:31 PM
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this is all a bit of a revelation for me. i own the ad9624 (and i DO highly recommend it), but as i knew it didn't generate wordclock, i didn't realize you could use its wordclock to sync other units to. WOW! what a diff it makes with my amlll!!! question; can you sync ptools via the spdif at the same time as you track through it? will the spdif connection perform both tasks at the same time? btw, congrats on your purchase of the lucid & the rnp; i've been extolling the virtues of having 2 channels of a great signal path & a/d conversion over settling for the budget 8 channel alternatives on the market on this forum for a while now. you made a smart move. getting it in as best you can puts you ahead of the game, as you can at least take a great recording somewhere else that has a pro front and back end, until you can afford to play catch up with your own back end.

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Old 01-03-2003, 07:46 PM
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Mr. Lawrence,

See below the email exchange that I had with the Lucid tech.

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Yes, when using an external converter, you typically want that converter to be your clock master. So your case is fairly simple. You would set the AD9624 to internal clock at either 44.1 or 48k and then run S/PDIF out to the S/PDIF in on the 001. Then setup Pro Tools to use the S/PDIF port as clock reference and audio input.

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Subject: Lucid A/D D/A Converters and Clock...

I have a Digi 001 Pro Tools rig. I'm looking to purchase the Lucid Converters and Clock. At this time, my priority is to get the A/D converter and then add the clock and D/A converter later (as money allows). Can the A/D converter function as the master clock and provide better clocking than the Digi 001 internal clock?

Thanks for your help!

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Old 01-03-2003, 10:25 PM
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Can the A/D converter function as the master clock and provide better clocking than the Digi 001 internal clock?
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can you sync ptools via the spdif at the same time as you track through it?
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Yes it will, yes it does. and yes you can!
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Old 01-04-2003, 11:05 AM
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excellent!!!!!!!

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Old 01-04-2003, 03:10 PM
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Burner,

the RNC arrived yesterday, WOW! that soft limiting I was looking for into protools for my vocals arrived with it.

I have it hooked up with my ART Pro MPA at the moment and it really made the ART sound better (no joke) what a difference. I can only imagine what the RNP, Lucid, with the RNC did for you.

next step: eight channel mic pre? 8ch converter? 2ch mic pre? or 2 channel converter?...hey at least i got the compressor section figured out.

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