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Old Yesterday, 12:21 PM
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Default Re: PT 2018.10 is here

Originally Posted by innesireinar View Post
Agree. But don't understand why we need to pay the annual plan for having only bug fixing
Vanilla didn't get even that!
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Old Yesterday, 06:48 PM
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Default Re: PT 2018.10 is here

First time I’ve ever had to revert to a clone.
Beach balls every mouse click. Not crashing, just beach balls, wait...click again...beach ball....wait....nope!
Back to 2018.7.

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Old Yesterday, 06:57 PM
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Default Re: PT 2018.10 is here

People are happy paying for bug fixes?

Strange times we live in. Strange indeed.

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Old Yesterday, 11:19 PM
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Default Re: PT 2018.10 is here

Stable and solid software is what earns my money. Not the new and rushed bells and whistles with bugs that break my workflows. I am waiting for new features, but they must be done properly, whatever time it takes.
So, yes, i am ok paying for bug fixes. Running PT 24/7 without glitch pays my rent. :)
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Old Today, 12:30 AM
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Default Re: PT 2018.10 is here

Now, it's obvious that most people prefer to pay only for new features and not for fixes of features or functionality that they already payed for.

That said, in a situation where the platform is unstable and we're presented with two options:

1. Adding more (potentially bug introducing) features to an unstable platform.
2. Halting new functionality until the previous bugs have been sorted.

It should be pretty obvious that most of us would choose #2, not as a preferred situation, but as the lesser of two evils. Non of this is optimal.
We really shouldn't have been asked to pay subscription for anything but a solid product.

I have been livid at Avid for suggesting I pay for the last few years, since my expensive HD Native system had become damn near unusable.
Now that functionality has somewhat been restored, I will resist less to renewing my subscription.

Personally I really don't need much more from PT than it already does, apart from bug fixes.

Sure, folder tracks would be handy, but the scroll to tracks feature already helps with finding tracks, although I guess it would be nice to be able to hide hidden tracks from view in the track list, or at least make only the active ones appear at the top, but I doubt they'll do that.

Other than that the coolest evolutionary new feature I could think of, is some sort of auto freeze mode, that lets you put certain or all active plugins in a state where they are in a hybrid state between live and frozen. When you're tweaking them they are live and after an idle time (e.g. 5s) they automatically start using idle CPU cycles to freeze. Preferably this would occur not from start to finish, but from the playhead position outwards, but going backwards in time will likely not work. So I guess from slightly before the playback head onward and when that's done it can start from the top to complete the rendered file.
Depending on the load and capability of the processor, this could be in real time (even saving live streams during playback), to sub or super realtime rates.

The advantage of such a system would be that it would free up CPU resources and divide processing much more evenly over time, avoiding spikes as much as possible and allowing for a more stable feeling system, since there's few(er) live processes going on at any given time.
It will create more CPU headroom, for instance allowing you to use a heavy reverb during tracking on playback tracks, because it'll automatically get rendered once you're done tweaking it and the input doesn't change, or even on live input tracks since most of the other processors have been rendered already or are being rendered.

Some one once told me that if you do something (digitally) more than twice, it's worth automating.
Well, a boatload of our processing is happening identically way more than twice in our sessions, which needlessly taxes our capable processors. Especially during low buffer recording/production sessions this can cause issues with some plugins.

An autofreeze function like this, in my opinion would be a very welcome evolution to native DAWs and would further fade the difference between DSP and Native into the past.

I've already posted this idea on Avid link and I'll edit this post with a link to a feature request thread here, if I can find one.
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