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Old 08-31-2015, 08:40 AM
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Default Re: 2009 4.1 (4) Core Upgraded to a 5.1 (6) Core

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If I am not mistaken, the W's are singles.
I think the X's and E's are setup for multiples. (They also run fine as singles)

Point being, when swapping a single CPU model, if you plan to potentially swap in a dual CPU board later, you may want to consider using a CPU capable of running in a dual configuration, so if you make that move later, all you need to do is get one more CPU. The ones made for dual application also run fine by themselves, but the ones made for single do not run (or not right) in dual configuration..... it's just something you could do to save yourself some money in the long run.
I think I remember reading or watching a video somewhere, where they said you can't put the X series processors in the single core MacPro.
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Old 09-01-2015, 04:17 PM
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I just found two 2009 8 Core MacPro's for sale here locally for 500 each. Planning on buying both, upgrading one for me, and then selling the other.
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Old 09-02-2015, 08:30 PM
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I just bought an 8 Core to upgrade so if anyone needs a 6 core, mine is for sale.
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Old 09-06-2015, 09:09 AM
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Sold my 6 core today, the funny thing is the guy who responded to my craigslist add, told me he was motivated to buy a six core by a thread online. Guess which thread? So funny!
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I'm very excited about upgrading it to a 12 core!!!!!
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Took my 2009 2.66 2 X 4 core to 2010-2012 2.93 2 X 6 core using a pair of x5670 processors. Cost was $210/pair, they were pulls from a server at OWC.

Bought 8 X 4 gig 1333 ram totaling 32G for $249 at OWC.

I could not for the life of me get them to work with the lids on, after reading countless posts, and videos.
So I went home and removed the lids (IHS) via the vise method. (Not the hammer and vise method).
Cut the sealer with an x-acto knife, then used the vise method to shear the soldered lid from the CPU die.

Regarding memory, yes there is a 2% hit when filling a 4 slots versus 3. The sweet spot for a Mac Pro is 3 X 8 meg sticks per CPU die.
I went with 4 X 8 per CPU, and it far outweighed the 3 channel performance.

So for $460, I brought my 2009 to a 2012!! Good for a couple of more years.

Next on the to do list an SSD boot drive!!
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Took my 2009 2.66 2 X 4 core to 2010-2012 2.93 2 X 6 core using a pair of x5670 processors. Cost was $210/pair, they were pulls from a server at OWC.

Bought 8 X 4 gig 1333 ram totaling 32G for $249 at OWC.

I could not for the life of me get them to work with the lids on, after reading countless posts, and videos.
So I went home and removed the lids (IHS) via the vise method. (Not the hammer and vise method).
Cut the sealer with an x-acto knife, then used the vise method to shear the soldered lid from the CPU die.

Regarding memory, yes there is a 2% hit when filling a 4 slots versus 3. The sweet spot for a Mac Pro is 3 X 8 meg sticks per CPU die.
I went with 4 X 8 per CPU, and it far outweighed the 3 channel performance.

So for $460, I brought my 2009 to a 2012!! Good for a couple of more years.

Next on the to do list an SSD boot drive!!
Tell me more about the Vice IHS Removal.....What is the vice method without the hammer?

My CPU's arrived last week, I am awaiting my Thermal Pad as well as Washers to arrive this week.

Two questions?

1. Did you use washers?

2. Did you addd 3mm thermal pad over the sensors?

3. Did you do both?

So many success stories without having to Delid the CPU's, which is highly not recommended......
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Tell me more about the Vice IHS Removal.....What is the vice method without the hammer?

My CPU's arrived last week, I am awaiting my Thermal Pad as well as Washers to arrive this week.

Two questions?

1. Did you use washers?

2. Did you addd 3mm thermal pad over the sensors?

3. Did you do both?

So many success stories without having to Delid the CPU's, which is highly not recommended......


I tried it all!! Washers, thermal pad, drop the fan connector etc.



Do a search for Delid with vise .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AizBSTndfLg

I used an x-acto knife to cut the perimeter sealer, then used the vise method of shearing the solder horizontally.

Total success.
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Old 09-14-2015, 02:32 PM
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I tried it all!! Washers, thermal pad, drop the fan connector etc.



Do a search for Delid with vise .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AizBSTndfLg

I used an x-acto knife to cut the perimeter sealer, then used the vise method of shearing the solder horizontally.

Total success.
I actually practiced it last night with some old CPU's I had from previous upgrades to other computers. The ones that were soldered, left a lot of solder on top of the CPU.

Did that happen to you, and if so, how did you go about removing it?

I really don't want to screw it up, it's an expensive mistake.

Either way, it will be worse case, as I plan to try the more conventional steps first.

I appreciate any insight you can give me as one way or the other, I will be attempting the upgrade this weekend.
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