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Which flavor of SMPTE
I have to transfer five or six songs from 2" 24 track analog tape to Pro Tools HD.
These are tapes that I worked on over twenty years ago. There is SMPTE on track 24, which was probably used for mixing automation as I am certain MIDI was not involved and no 24 trk. "slaves" were made. I am not sure if these tapes were striped with 29.97 FPS or 30 FPS SMPTE, and it is not marked one way or the other. If I sync PT HD up to the 24 track machine using whatever synchronizer the studio has (probably a Linx Timeline), ext. video sync. ref, and a Sync I/O, does it matter if the existing SMPTE is 29.97 or 30.00. And how do I set up the Pro Tools session in terms of time code? Mark |
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Re: Which flavor of SMPTE
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If you are synching PT to the SMPTE code, it would be best to match your PT session frame rate to the rate of the original 2" SMPTE. If you never plan to synch the audio to visual images... like matching a vocal performance to visual images of a singer singing that vocal... and if the tape machine is running (and track playing) at a true speed without resolving the time code with the Lynx ... I'm not sure I'd worry too much about the time code. |
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I can almost guarantee you that it's 30 frame (NDFTC). There's was no reason to run 29.97 on analog tape UNLESS it was locked to picture, which would be the deciding factor.
One way to tell is to create an 30 frame NON DROP session and have it chase the TC. If it DOESN'T hiccup at the top of every minute (where the dropped frames would be) then it's definitely NON DROP. If the session freaks out, change it to 29.97 DFTC and try it again.
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Re: Which flavor of SMPTE
the best way to tell is with a destrypilizer
if you dont have one you can use a USD or Sync IO to tell the frame rate \ Quit pro tools use the Sync IO in standalone mode feed the TC into the Sync IO with it set to clock from incoming TC ( clock and positional reference both set to TC ) change the Sync IO frame rate till the Lock and Speed Cal LED's are solid FYI it will blink fast or slow if the TC is either faster or slower than the incoming TC Leave 2" locked internal ( freewheel ) (( no Lynx ))
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careful you may only have a few passes with that old tape make sure the oxide doesn't fall off the head stack i have a good baker if you need one.
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Been there and done that with the shedding. I've been advised by a tech at a prominent studio that this batch may have missed the "bad batch" window of Ampex tape that had all of the problems. I'll find out soon enough when I put them up on a machine. If I need to bake them, you may hear from me. How many reels can you do at once, and what kind of "baker" do you have? Thanks, Mark |
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But I may have just left the generator at 29.97 out of habit, in the event I needed to make a slave, because I preferred resolving to vid ref for slaves. But you make a good point that I would not have striped the tape ...and perhaps bounced some tracks around to make room ...until it was time to mix. Mark |
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he may have more i think they are made just for tape baking (not sure) he's in eagle rock john strother very pro cat, knows his craft he could also do the transfer if you needed he has machines of many formats http://www.penguinrecording.com/
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Re: Which flavor of SMPTE
Why do you need to sync to the tape at all anyway? Unless you intend to run both 2" and PT when mixing (which would not be a good idea with tapes that old), then you really don't have to lock them together to make the transfer.
Just record the SMPTE track to a PT audio track along with the other 23 tracks, and you will always have that to sync to if you ever need it later. Run both 2" machine and PT on internal clocks (no synchronization/resolving) for best sonic results.
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