Avid Pro Audio Community

Avid Pro Audio Community

How to Join & Post  •  Community Terms of Use  •  Help Us Help You

Knowledge Base Search  •  Community Search  •  Learn & Support


Avid Home Page

Go Back   Avid Pro Audio Community > Legacy Products > Pro Tools 2019

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #161  
Old 04-08-2020, 02:07 PM
foxes's Avatar
foxes foxes is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: London UK
Posts: 209
Default Re: Sample Rounding Issue!!!!

Quote:
Originally Posted by innesireinar View Post
I also work with many other PT user everyday (unfortunately today only without physical contact) and found them focused especially on AAE errors and other issues. And by viewing this threads you can see that only few of us (duc registered) are posting here.
Again spot on.
__________________
iMac 27" Late 2013 3.5Ghz i7 32GB Ram 3TB HDD, 1TB SSD Samsung 850 Pro, Movaje 10.14.6, Pro tools 2021.7, 2021.3 & 2020.12 installed. UAD Apollo 8 Quad & Satellite Quad, Reason 10.4.1 & Reason Suite 11.3.9, Logic Pro X 10.5.1 (need to upgrade to Catalina for LPX10.6), plugins & VI's by practically everyone. G-Tech Mini 1TB HDD, 3 x 1TB Glyph GT050Q, Lacie Rugged 500GB & several assorted drives.....lots & lots of hardware synths & outboard

https://soundcloud.com/2b3productions
Reply With Quote
  #162  
Old 04-08-2020, 04:22 PM
innesireinar innesireinar is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 775
Default Re: Sample Rounding Issue!!!!

Quote:
Originally Posted by foxes View Post
Again spot on.
Great that you are active here on this thread.
However today I was mixing the last track of an album and switched to PT11. Wonderful!!!
No AAE errors, no sample rounding when moving midi clips (also did some edit). Then I was thinking that at the end of 2017 I gave Avid 700 (at discount price) for the reinstatement, 339 in the 2018 and 339 some months ago for plan..... then back to PT11.........
__________________
Avid HDX - Avid HD I/O 16x16 Analog - Pro Tools Ultimate 2023.6 - Nuendo 11
Mac Pro 5.1 2 esacore 2.66 64GB Ram - Mac OS 11.7.7
Reply With Quote
  #163  
Old 04-09-2020, 05:46 PM
foxes's Avatar
foxes foxes is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: London UK
Posts: 209
Default Re: Sample Rounding Issue!!!!

Quote:
Originally Posted by innesireinar View Post
Great that you are active here on this thread.
However today I was mixing the last track of an album and switched to PT11. Wonderful!!!
No AAE errors, no sample rounding when moving midi clips (also did some edit). Then I was thinking that at the end of 2017 I gave Avid 700 (at discount price) for the reinstatement, 339 in the 2018 and 339 some months ago for plan..... then back to PT11.........
We got to try to keep some attention on this 'Avid ignored' bug.

I hear you, Avid have a time limit for me on fixing this bug or else it'll be where I get off this Avid "pay me upfront for practically nothing" train.
__________________
iMac 27" Late 2013 3.5Ghz i7 32GB Ram 3TB HDD, 1TB SSD Samsung 850 Pro, Movaje 10.14.6, Pro tools 2021.7, 2021.3 & 2020.12 installed. UAD Apollo 8 Quad & Satellite Quad, Reason 10.4.1 & Reason Suite 11.3.9, Logic Pro X 10.5.1 (need to upgrade to Catalina for LPX10.6), plugins & VI's by practically everyone. G-Tech Mini 1TB HDD, 3 x 1TB Glyph GT050Q, Lacie Rugged 500GB & several assorted drives.....lots & lots of hardware synths & outboard

https://soundcloud.com/2b3productions
Reply With Quote
  #164  
Old 04-09-2020, 05:58 PM
musicman691 musicman691 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: The Sopranos State (NJ)
Posts: 19,136
Default Re: Sample Rounding Issue!!!!

Quote:
Originally Posted by foxes View Post
We got to try to keep some attention on this 'Avid ignored' bug.

I hear you, Avid have a time limit for me on fixing this bug or else it'll be where I get off this Avid "pay me upfront for practically nothing" train.
I was hoping for some MIDI fixes with 2020.3 but sadly nothing on what Avid had acknowledged and can repro. Makes me wonder if I should keep up with my renewal this year. Hell Logic X is only $199 US.
__________________
Jack
See profile for system details
iMac dead & retired as of 11/4/17

QAPLA!
Reply With Quote
  #165  
Old 04-09-2020, 06:28 PM
Evermore Evermore is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: US
Posts: 126
Default Re: Sample Rounding Issue!!!!

Quote:
Originally Posted by innesireinar View Post
A couple of years ago, during the 2018.xxx era, I spent some days with Avid tech support sending them many sessions, some created with the 2018, some with pt11 at many different tempo and SR. They also stated that on the 2018 the bug was there while on pt11 not. I'm talking about midi stuff, especially when move/copy clips by alt-drag. We found that the only condition where this bug didn't happen was on a session at 48KHz 125bpm where every tick matched to a integer sample. They told me that they would have passed this to the tech staff. Nothing happened and after 2 years this bug is still here. I hope you will have better luck (for you and for all of us). It would be great to share this with you (and other). I can send you the same sessions that I sent them in the past (that I still have). But for this test you need also pt11 installed.
I was not aware it's been around for that long. I'm assuming the issue was introduced in PT12 which came out in 2015.

I cannot use PT11 but that would have been very helpful. I might need your help if you are willing to provide any gifs for comparisons between PT11 and PT12 and above.

Are gifs allowed on this forum? Either I will be creating short gifs of the issue to go along with my findings and workarounds.
__________________
Pro Tools 2023.3
Monterey 12.6.3
iMac i7 4.0
Apogee Symphony IO mkii
Reply With Quote
  #166  
Old 04-09-2020, 06:44 PM
Evermore Evermore is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: US
Posts: 126
Default Re: Sample Rounding Issue!!!!

Quote:
Originally Posted by foxes View Post
We got to try to keep some attention on this 'Avid ignored' bug.
Yes, and I agree.

Short story... I bought Cubase 8.0 back in 2014 and was loving it. Soon after, I and a few many others found a major issue with the GUI on Macs affecting zoom functions and edits of audio. It was so slow that it was unusable working with a few tracks. Trust me it was terrible!

At first Steinberg was in denial and saying it was not reproducible on their end. Guess what? Everyone at the Steinberg forum came together to confirm the issue to make Steinberg aware and also pressuring and saying we will not update to the next version unless it is fixed. By Cubase 9.5, Steinberg had fixed it and it was a blessing for everyone being affected.

I'm hoping that we can bring more attention here soon. Even the ones that are not worried about this bug due to workflows can provide help by confirming the issue does happen on their systems. This would help greatly.

If it wasn't in PT11 like innesireinar mentioned, then it means it can be fixed.
__________________
Pro Tools 2023.3
Monterey 12.6.3
iMac i7 4.0
Apogee Symphony IO mkii
Reply With Quote
  #167  
Old 04-10-2020, 01:09 AM
XJENSEN XJENSEN is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Gent, Belgium, Europe
Posts: 505
Default Re: Sample Rounding Issue!!!!

I gave up years ago. They just won't fix it. Pro Tools remains unusable for MIDI (well, not completely usable).

Reading this... I requested Avid to reopen all my cases relating to this issue. They responded it has now been escalated. Examples of cases I reported back in 2016 (!).

03106352 Separate MIDI clip (Command+E) doesn't adhere to grid Bug Logged/Known Defect 12/16/2016
03108869 MIDI loop trimming fails 12/21/2016
03106703 MIDI notes disappearing when switching MIDI track from sample- to tick-based Bug Logged/Known Defect 12/17/2016
03106464 Impossible to copy/paste/drag correct MIDI clips or selections 12/16/2016
03106431 MIDI notes randomly don't play, although visible in the clip 12/16/2016
03106402 Trimming looped MIDI clip end includes unexpected further notes 12/16/2016
03106397 MIDI range selection includes unexpected events 12/16/2016
03700600 MIDI events randomly disappearing when copying regions 5/9/2019

Will keep you posted when (if) I get any update from Avid.
Reply With Quote
  #168  
Old 04-10-2020, 01:13 AM
XJENSEN XJENSEN is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Gent, Belgium, Europe
Posts: 505
Default Re: Sample Rounding Issue!!!!

I also think this topic should live on in the Pro Tools 2020 forum instead of being tucked away in older sections.
Reply With Quote
  #169  
Old 04-10-2020, 03:58 AM
innesireinar innesireinar is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 775
Default Re: Sample Rounding Issue!!!!

Quote:
Originally Posted by XJENSEN View Post
I also think this topic should live on in the Pro Tools 2020 forum instead of being tucked away in older sections.
I was thinking the same thing
__________________
Avid HDX - Avid HD I/O 16x16 Analog - Pro Tools Ultimate 2023.6 - Nuendo 11
Mac Pro 5.1 2 esacore 2.66 64GB Ram - Mac OS 11.7.7
Reply With Quote
  #170  
Old 04-10-2020, 04:24 PM
foxes's Avatar
foxes foxes is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: London UK
Posts: 209
Default Re: Sample Rounding Issue!!!!

Quote:
Originally Posted by musicman691 View Post
I was hoping for some MIDI fixes with 2020.3 but sadly nothing on what Avid had acknowledged and can repro. Makes me wonder if I should keep up with my renewal this year. Hell Logic X is only $199 US.
Me too.

Defo repro as well. I've given Avid all the money they are gonna get from me unless this fix this!
__________________
iMac 27" Late 2013 3.5Ghz i7 32GB Ram 3TB HDD, 1TB SSD Samsung 850 Pro, Movaje 10.14.6, Pro tools 2021.7, 2021.3 & 2020.12 installed. UAD Apollo 8 Quad & Satellite Quad, Reason 10.4.1 & Reason Suite 11.3.9, Logic Pro X 10.5.1 (need to upgrade to Catalina for LPX10.6), plugins & VI's by practically everyone. G-Tech Mini 1TB HDD, 3 x 1TB Glyph GT050Q, Lacie Rugged 500GB & several assorted drives.....lots & lots of hardware synths & outboard

https://soundcloud.com/2b3productions
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Sample Rounding budda963 Pro Tools 11 1 07-08-2013 06:07 AM
sample rounding error in pro tools 10??? DarkDayz Pro Tools 10 6 11-02-2011 03:22 AM
PT and Sample Rounding WILL cause Issues when Copying 25ghosts Pro Tools TDM Systems (Mac) 7 07-01-2011 02:25 AM
Sample rounding issues bigdoghat 003, Mbox 2, Digi 002, original Mbox, Digi 001 (Mac) 4 11-13-2007 08:20 AM
Sample rounding, ticks, etc voce Pro Tools TDM Systems (Mac) 1 08-03-2005 05:26 AM


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 05:55 AM.


Powered by: vBulletin, Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Limited. Forum Hosted By: URLJet.com