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Old 02-06-2002, 08:29 PM
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Default Snare Drum Resonance

When recording a drum set the snares vibrate with tom hits and sometimes kick drum hits too. I've tried tightening snares and some tape wich worked pretty well but I would like to know if any of you have other solutions. It would be great to take care of the snare vibrations pre recording instead of later.

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Old 02-06-2002, 09:44 PM
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Default Re: Snare Drum Resonance

Try laying a thick blanket across the the top of the kick drum.
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Old 02-07-2002, 02:59 AM
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Hi

I think there's no definitive solution, I usually go with tape whenever I have this kind of trouble, also try to tune the snare head and bottom slightly different, to see if they react differently to the vibration inducted (by the way, did you find out what other drum in the kit - or other instrument - triggers that vibration?).

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Old 02-08-2002, 07:28 AM
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Default Re: Snare Drum Resonance

Thanks guys I'll try those suggestions.

There is the kick and two toms and they all seem to affect the snares, the high tom the most, then the kick.

Basically though would you guys agree this is something to take care of before hitting the convertors?

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Old 02-08-2002, 01:11 PM
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Default Re: Snare Drum Resonance

You could also try gating the snare after the fact, or you could to automate the volume on the snare too.

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Old 02-08-2002, 06:23 PM
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I would try to get rid of any unwanted noise before you record a single note: once recorded it will be there, and you'll have to work twice as hard to take care of it, so why not put a little more energy before; if you minimize (or eliminate ) it a little gating and filtering could be the right cure when mixing; don't gate when you record it, or you'll risk to loose some hits.

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Old 02-08-2002, 07:18 PM
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simpathetic vibrations are part of a drum kits sound, and although you don't want bad drum sounds, you also don't want a drum that goes thud and dies. Learn to tune properly, tighten all lugs, hardware (inside and out) etc to get rid of any rattles, keep pedals well oiled, and of course there is no substitute for a good player either.
Snares have a major varience in sounds, and some have more sympathetic vibrations than others, and a selections of mroe than one snare is always good but not always in the budget for smaller studios.
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Old 02-09-2002, 01:42 PM
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Right on thanks everyone. Gates are a hard thing to dial in without losing the attack of the drums, so I definetly will work on it before recording.

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I've seen just replacing the snares work wonders.
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Old 02-11-2002, 12:53 AM
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Right on Bob I had thought about that too, now I'll try it for sure.

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