Is there anyway to raise just the surround level?

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Hello,

Anyone know of a method for raising just the volume, in dB, of the surrounds in an existing Pro Tools 5.1 session? By this I mean just an increase of the level of the LS and the RS in the 5.1 Master output of a Pro Tools 8.0.1. session, so the bounced mix will have more gain in the surrounds.

Otherwise I will just have to adjust the individual surround panners f/s on the audio tracks and auxs so as to send more gain in the direction of the surrounds. While this may sound acceptable (moving from "70" to "50") it does not meet the request of "Bring the surrounds up six or nine dB".

Am I missing something in the routing architecture that allows this? Any thoughts?

Thanks!

[S.w.A.t]

you could split the 5.1 mix in to mono tracks and then juss put the volume up for the LS and the RS....and then drag it back in to a 5.1 audio track...

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Sounds like a good idea!

Thanks!

[TCDet]

Yes. Add a multi-mono "trim" to your surround master, then un-link and fine tune your outputs.

[Postman]

You can also do this on the master output with sub paths. In the IO setup, make a stereo sub path of the surround outputs, then put a master fader on it. No extra dsp, no additional delay, up to 12db of gain.

[Frank Kruse]

I´ve had nothing but trouble when automating un-linked multi-mono plugs. I tried this with the long delay plug to delay my surround signals on 5.0 atmos-tracks when desired but had nothing but trouble and unreliable automation playback doing this.

Maybe it was operator-error but I stopped doing this and rather sub-bus thw signal to do this in a less hidden manner.

Is this working for you guys well? I mean automating single channels in unlinked multi-mono-plugs?

Thanks,

frank.

[TCDet]

Originally Posted by Postman

You can also do this on the master output with sub paths. In the IO setup, make a stereo sub path of the surround outputs, then put a master fader on it. No extra dsp, no additional delay, up to 12db of gain.

Thanks Postman!

[Danny Caccavo]

Originally Posted by Postman

You can also do this on the master output with sub paths. In the IO setup, make a stereo sub path of the surround outputs, then put a master fader on it. No extra dsp, no additional delay, up to 12db of gain.

Just make sure that if you need to put a plug-in on one of those mono master tracks you put the same plug-in (or equiv delay) on the rest of the mono master tracks, or Delay Comp won't work. Yes, a master track uses no DSP, which means it's not a mixer point, which means no delay can automatically be applied to it. It WILL "transmit" delay information - it just can't receive it.

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[Tstein]

Frank,

Yes, PT 7 & 8 You can automated unlinked channels of a plug in. Though I think that some plugs seem to do this better than others.