Snare drum sound in superior drummer

[Raoul23]

Ive just tracked a band and they used superior drummer 2.2.2 Ive route the individual drums to seperate tracks in PT. but im finding the snare is not quite right. The big transients sound really good with lots of crack but the small transients sound horrible. Would i correct this by changing the velocity in the midi edit or can i change it in superior so all the drum hits sound nearly the same with lots of crack .



Cheers

[albee1952]

Here is what works for me. I split out sounds to their own audio tracks and record them. Then I open the kit and select NONE for the snare sound, and re-record the overhead track. What happens for me is there is always too much snare in the overhead track for good control. This method gives you an overhead track with no snare bleed. While you may think that would be unnatural(and you are technically right), it gives you way better control of your snare within the mix. Give it a shot and see what you think.

[Dizzi45Z]

Originally Posted by albee1952

Here is what works for me. I split out sounds to their own audio tracks and record them. Then I open the kit and select NONE for the snare sound, and re-record the overhead track. What happens for me is there is always too much snare in the overhead track for good control. This method gives you an overhead track with no snare bleed. While you may think that would be unnatural(and you are technically right), it gives you way better control of your snare within the mix. Give it a shot and see what you think.

Couldn't you just turn down or turn off the snare bleed in Superior's Mixer?

[albee1952]

Originally Posted by Dizzi45Z

Couldn't you just turn down or turn off the snare bleed in Superior's Mixer?

Maybe. I've never been able to make it go away(hence my "solution").

[Dizzi45Z]

Originally Posted by albee1952

Maybe. I've never been able to make it go away(hence my "solution").

Dig in and learn the bleed functionality of Superior. It is one of the coolest features of Superior Drummer. Each microphone has it's own mixer that can control how much of each drum/cymbal comes through it. I find myself using it quite often to bring down the hi-hat in over heads, bring snare down in OH (sometimes) and bring all but ride cymbal down in overheads to bring it out just a bit more. But on top of that, it is cool to just turn on the snare ambience on some of the further room microphones too.

[albee1952]

Good advice there. I will have to dig in

[Dizzi45Z]

Albee1952, Sorry for the poor word choice there. I didn't mean to come across condescending in my post, just helpful.

[albee1952]

Originally Posted by Dizzi45Z

Albee1952, Sorry for the poor word choice there. I didn't mean to come across condescending in my post, just helpful.

I didn't see that at all. No worries

[cneal92]

Yeah I use the spill controls all the time! I personally think that a snare sounds its best when it's also in the overheads, generally speaking. For me the snare never comes "alive" until I bring in the overheads. The real crack of the snare comes from OHs and Room mics.

Superior is a really deep and powerful program. Go to the Toontrack website and check out the Toontrack TV > Tutorials page and watch the SD mixer and xdrum videos. If you use some of these features you can have your cake and eat it too. Well, you can have NO snare in your main overheads, but you can have your snare and the snare in your "other" overheads. :)

With the xdrums you can bring in kit pieces from another (or the same) sdx. One trick I've used is to create a x-Ride (which allows you to create another OH track which you can route the new x-snare to) and x-Snare kit. Now you can have your snare and snare in the x-OH, but not in your main OH. And that in the words of the SNL imitation Miley Cyrus is "Pretty Cool!" :)

[Raoul23]

Im going to start experimenting now thanks guys