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Old 12-31-2000, 01:33 AM
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Default Deleting waveform

Hi.. Is it wise to delete the unwanted sound in drum tracks ? for example, deleting all the kick and hihat that mic snare pick up in snare track ? also deleting snare, etc on kick tracks ?

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Old 12-31-2000, 10:29 AM
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I think what you'll end up with if you do that is a very unnatural sounding drum track. All of the drum mics pick up the sound of drums other than which they are focused. If you delete the sound in between the actual sounds that you want, you'll end up with a "pumping" type sound, similar to what you'd get with extreme compression. But probably worse. It makes the cymbals especially bad.

That's not to say that it couldn't be used for special effect. Any technique can be useful for something.

What you're describing would be similar to using MIDI drums. That's one reason that MIDI drums don't sound as good as real ones. There's no mix. Each drum sound is in its own isolated test tube. Most MIDI drums are real drums that have been sampled and cleaned up anyway.

Just use mic placement to minimize bleed, or take advantage of it.

There is one song I was working on where the drummer did a rim-shot that was way too weak. I didn't want to make him come back just to fix one weak verse, so I fixed it with editing. I found one particularly good sounding rim-shot hit that didn't have too much other noise, especially cymbals, and pasted a copy of it over all the weak hits (on a new track). The silence in between the hits sounded awful, so I used reverb to fill in the blank spots, and created a new audio file from that. That worked out pretty good. But as you see, what I ended up doing was to replace the noise between hits, not eliminate it!

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Thanks Mike for your advice. I'll keep that in mind. You're a great help.

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