Pro Tools 8 constantly crashing with no errors

[theunder]

Ok I've finally had it, I'm coming here for help because this problem is beyond me.

Running a MBP:
Snow Leopard 10.6.6
2.16 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
4GB RAM
External Firewire hard drive using Firewire 800 out of the MBP into a 800 -> 400 adapter into the drive.
002 Rack with the serial ending in G connected to the MBP firewire 400.

Pro Tools 8.0.4
Waves 7.0 plugins (all compatible)

This setup has worked great up until just recently when it all went downhill (about a month ago). I've read through this forum like crazy, troubleshooting everything, re-installing pro tools about 10 times, trashing prefs, making sure I was compatible. I even went up to 8.0.5 but that did nothing. It started off with just the usual buffer errors. It would error out about 3 times and then crash. Now it just crashes without any errors. This all happens about 10 min after I open a session. I've tried multiple drives but that doesn't seem to affect it. So I'm stumped. Here's part of my crash report since it wont let me paste the whole thing:

Process: Pro Tools LE [383]
Path: /Applications/Digidesign/Pro Tools/Pro Tools LE.app/Contents/MacOS/Pro Tools LE
Identifier: com.digidesign.ProToolsLE
Version: 8.0.4 (8.0.4f240)
Code Type: X86 (Native)
Parent Process: launchd [124]

Date/Time: 2011-05-10 22:26:24.752 -0700
OS Version: Mac OS X 10.6.6 (10J567)
Report Version: 6

Interval Since Last Report: 3223917 sec
Crashes Since Last Report: 76
Per-App Interval Since Last Report: 361770 sec
Per-App Crashes Since Last Report: 34
Anonymous UUID: 0E48CC02-526E-4E21-8E71-C526F5E95E23

Exception Type: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGSEGV)
Exception Codes: 0x000000000000000d, 0x0000000000000000
Crashed Thread: 0 Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread

Thread 0 Crashed: Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
0 dyld 0x8fe11f32 misaligned_stack_error + 0
1 ...gn.framework.CoreFoundation 0x002c3be1 Cmn_StackDump::Cmn_StackDump() + 87
2 ...gn.framework.CoreFoundation 0x00358753 Sys_MachExceptionHandler::Init(bool) + 525
3 ??? 0x00000001 0 + 1
4 com.apple.framework.IOKit 0x97b3e22d IODispatchCalloutFromMessage + 39
5 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x96888772 __CFMachPortPerform + 338
6 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x968844db __CFRunLoopRun + 6523
7 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x96882464 CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 452
8 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x96882291 CFRunLoopRunInMode + 97
9 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x96ea8004 RunCurrentEventLoopInMode + 392
10 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x96ea7dbb ReceiveNextEventCommon + 354
11 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x970301a2 _AcquireNextEvent + 54
12 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x97025e54 RunApplicationEventLoop + 228
13 com.digidesign.framework.DFW 0x0251773f DFW_EventLoop::RunApplicationEventLoop() + 11
14 com.digidesign.framework.DFW 0x0240684f TApplication::Run() + 45
15 ...gidesign.framework.ProTools 0x0142453b LaunchProTools + 1567
16 com.digidesign.ProToolsLE 0x0000a1e9 0x1000 + 37353
17 com.digidesign.ProToolsLE 0x0000aaf3 0x1000 + 39667
18 com.digidesign.ProToolsLE 0x00004e8f 0x1000 + 16015
19 com.digidesign.ProToolsLE 0x00004dbd 0x1000 + 15805

Thread 1: Dispatch queue: com.apple.libdispatch-manager
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9280c982 kevent + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9280d09c _dispatch_mgr_invoke + 215
2 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9280c559 _dispatch_queue_invoke + 163
3 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9280c2fe _dispatch_worker_thread2 + 240
4 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9280bd81 _pthread_wqthread + 390
5 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9280bbc6 start_wqthread + 30

Thread 2:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x927e6136 semaphore_wait_trap + 10
1 ...idesign.framework.digitrace 0x0477f667 DigiTraceStart(CDigiTraceManager*, bool) + 8224
2 ...idesign.framework.digitrace 0x04782e41 DigiTraceIsActiveFunc + 1124
3 ...idesign.framework.digitrace 0x04782f8b DigiTraceIsActiveFunc + 1454
4 ...idesign.framework.digitrace 0x047830d5 DigiTraceIsActiveFunc + 1784
5 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9281385d _pthread_start + 345
6 libSystem.B.dylib 0x928136e2 thread_start + 34

Thread 3:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x927e60fa mach_msg_trap + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x927e6867 mach_msg + 68
2 ...gn.framework.CoreFoundation 0x00358422 Sys_Random::Sys_Random() + 214
3 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9281385d _pthread_start + 345
4 libSystem.B.dylib 0x928136e2 thread_start + 34

Thread 4:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x927e60fa mach_msg_trap + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x927e6867 mach_msg + 68
2 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x9688337f __CFRunLoopRun + 2079
3 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x96882464 CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 452
4 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x968883a4 CFRunLoopRun + 84
5 com.digidesign.framework.DAE 0x03147244 FicIsAlive + 800
6 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9281385d _pthread_start + 345
7 libSystem.B.dylib 0x928136e2 thread_start + 34

Thread 5:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x927f20ca ioctl + 10
1 ...n.framework.PlatformSupport 0x029378d5 PSHardware_MatchDeviceInfo(TPSPCIDeviceInfo const*, TPSPCIDeviceInfo const*) + 6524
2 ...n.framework.PlatformSupport 0x0294078a PSThreadTable_AddTable(SPSThreadPriorityEntry const*, unsigned long) + 311
3 com.digidesign.framework.DAE 0x031c5659 FicReportExternalEvent + 150448
4 ...gn.framework.CoreFoundation 0x003373d6 Sys_RawThreadTask::Run() + 36
5 ...gn.framework.CoreFoundation 0x00354bfa Sys_RawThread::ThreadIDsAreEqual(void*, void*) + 48
6 ...n.framework.PlatformSupport 0x02937cdd PSHardware_MatchDeviceInfo(TPSPCIDeviceInfo const*, TPSPCIDeviceInfo const*) + 7556
7 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9281385d _pthread_start + 345
8 libSystem.B.dylib 0x928136e2 thread_start + 34

Thread 6:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x927e620e mach_wait_until + 10
1 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x92bc8828 MPDelayUntil + 43
2 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x92bd824e Delay + 107
3 ...opellerheads.rewire.library 0x138cf7e8 RWPUnregisterDeviceImp + 21574
4 ...opellerheads.rewire.library 0x138eaa5c RWPUnregisterDeviceImp + 132794
5 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9281385d _pthread_start + 345
6 libSystem.B.dylib 0x928136e2 thread_start + 34

Thread 7:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x927e60fa mach_msg_trap + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x927e6867 mach_msg + 68
2 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x9688337f __CFRunLoopRun + 2079
3 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x96882464 CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 452
4 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x968883a4 CFRunLoopRun + 84
5 com.apple.DVCPROHDMuxer 0x14b6d98f AVS:estroyAVCDeviceController(AVS::AVCDeviceCont roller*) + 317
6 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9281385d _pthread_start + 345
7 libSystem.B.dylib 0x928136e2 thread_start + 34

Thread 8:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x927e614e semaphore_timedwait_trap + 10
1 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x92b56c42 MPWaitOnSemaphore + 125
2 ...gidesign.iokit.digifwdriver 0x05c6f017 MidiReadThread(void*) + 65
3 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x92b2485a PrivateMPEntryPoint + 68
4 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9281385d _pthread_start + 345
5 libSystem.B.dylib 0x928136e2 thread_start + 34

Thread 9:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x927e614e semaphore_timedwait_trap + 10
1 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x92b56c42 MPWaitOnSemaphore + 125
2 ...gidesign.iokit.digifwdriver 0x05c6f017 MidiReadThread(void*) + 65
3 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x92b2485a PrivateMPEntryPoint + 68
4 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9281385d _pthread_start + 345
5 libSystem.B.dylib 0x928136e2 thread_start + 34

Thread 10:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x927e614e semaphore_timedwait_trap + 10
1 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x92b56c42 MPWaitOnSemaphore + 125
2 ...gidesign.iokit.digifwdriver 0x05c6f017 MidiReadThread(void*) + 65
3 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x92b2485a PrivateMPEntryPoint + 68
4 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9281385d _pthread_start + 345
5 libSystem.B.dylib 0x928136e2 thread_start + 34

Thread 11:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x927e614e semaphore_timedwait_trap + 10
1 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x92b56c42 MPWaitOnSemaphore + 125
2 ...gidesign.iokit.digifwdriver 0x05c6f017 MidiReadThread(void*) + 65
3 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x92b2485a PrivateMPEntryPoint + 68
4 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9281385d _pthread_start + 345
5 libSystem.B.dylib 0x928136e2 thread_start + 34

Thread 12:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x927e614e semaphore_timedwait_trap + 10
1 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x92b56c42 MPWaitOnSemaphore + 125
2 ...gidesign.iokit.digifwdriver 0x05c6f017 MidiReadThread(void*) + 65
3 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x92b2485a PrivateMPEntryPoint + 68
4 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9281385d _pthread_start + 345
5 libSystem.B.dylib 0x928136e2 thread_start + 34

Thread 13:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x927e614e semaphore_timedwait_trap + 10
1 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x92b56c42 MPWaitOnSemaphore + 125
2 ...gidesign.iokit.digifwdriver 0x05c6f017 MidiReadThread(void*) + 65
3 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x92b2485a PrivateMPEntryPoint + 68
4 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9281385d _pthread_start + 345
5 libSystem.B.dylib 0x928136e2 thread_start + 34

Thread 14:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x927e614e semaphore_timedwait_trap + 10
1 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x92b56c42 MPWaitOnSemaphore + 125
2 ...gidesign.iokit.digifwdriver 0x05c6f017 MidiReadThread(void*) + 65
3 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x92b2485a PrivateMPEntryPoint + 68
4 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9281385d _pthread_start + 345
5 libSystem.B.dylib 0x928136e2 thread_start + 34

Thread 15:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x927e614e semaphore_timedwait_trap + 10
1 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x92b56c42 MPWaitOnSemaphore + 125
2 ...gidesign.iokit.digifwdriver 0x05c6f017 MidiReadThread(void*) + 65
3 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x92b2485a PrivateMPEntryPoint + 68
4 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9281385d _pthread_start + 345
5 libSystem.B.dylib 0x928136e2 thread_start + 34

Thread 16:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x927e60fa mach_msg_trap + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x927e6867 mach_msg + 68
2 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x9688337f __CFRunLoopRun + 2079
3 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x96882464 CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 452
4 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x968883a4 CFRunLoopRun + 84
5 com.digidesign.framework.DAE 0x032a050c FicHostPlugInRunnerInit + 47423
6 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x92b2485a PrivateMPEntryPoint + 68
7 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9281385d _pthread_start + 345
8 libSystem.B.dylib 0x928136e2 thread_start + 34

Thread 17:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x927e60fa mach_msg_trap + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x927e6867 mach_msg + 68
2 com.digidesign.framework.DAE 0x032a1c64 FicHostPlugInRunnerInit + 53399
3 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x92b2485a PrivateMPEntryPoint + 68
4 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9281385d _pthread_start + 345
5 libSystem.B.dylib 0x928136e2 thread_start + 34

Thread 18:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x927f20ca ioctl + 10
1 ...n.framework.PlatformSupport 0x029378d5 PSHardware_MatchDeviceInfo(TPSPCIDeviceInfo const*, TPSPCIDeviceInfo const*) + 6524
2 com.digidesign.framework.DAE 0x031f065e FWAudioCallback + 137440
3 ...n.framework.PlatformSupport 0x02937cdd PSHardware_MatchDeviceInfo(TPSPCIDeviceInfo const*, TPSPCIDeviceInfo const*) + 7556
4 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9281385d _pthread_start + 345
5 libSystem.B.dylib 0x928136e2 thread_start + 34

Thread 19:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x927f20ca ioctl + 10
1 ...n.framework.PlatformSupport 0x029378d5 PSHardware_MatchDeviceInfo(TPSPCIDeviceInfo const*, TPSPCIDeviceInfo const*) + 6524
2 ...n.framework.PlatformSupport 0x0294078a PSThreadTable_AddTable(SPSThreadPriorityEntry const*, unsigned long) + 311
3 ...gn.framework.CoreFoundation 0x0035497e Sys_BlockingTimer:estroy(Sys_BlockingTimer*&) + 840
4 ...gn.framework.CoreFoundation 0x0033742a Sys_RawThreadTimerTask::Exec() + 54
5 ...gn.framework.CoreFoundation 0x003373d6 Sys_RawThreadTask::Run() + 36
6 ...gn.framework.CoreFoundation 0x00354bfa Sys_RawThread::ThreadIDsAreEqual(void*, void*) + 48
7 ...n.framework.PlatformSupport 0x02937cdd PSHardware_MatchDeviceInfo(TPSPCIDeviceInfo const*, TPSPCIDeviceInfo const*) + 7556
8 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9281385d _pthread_start + 345
9 libSystem.B.dylib 0x928136e2 thread_start + 34

Thread 20:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x927f20ca ioctl + 10
1 ...n.framework.PlatformSupport 0x029378d5 PSHardware_MatchDeviceInfo(TPSPCIDeviceInfo const*, TPSPCIDeviceInfo const*) + 6524
2 com.digidesign.framework.DAE 0x0322159d FWAudioCallback + 337951
3 com.digidesign.framework.DAE 0x031e6de3 FWAudioCallback + 98405
4 com.digidesign.framework.DAE 0x032217f0 FWAudioCallback + 338546
5 ...n.framework.PlatformSupport 0x02937cf2 PSHardware_MatchDeviceInfo(TPSPCIDeviceInfo const*, TPSPCIDeviceInfo const*) + 7577
6 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9281385d _pthread_start + 345
7 libSystem.B.dylib 0x928136e2 thread_start + 34

[albee1952]

Waves has updated several times since 7, so an easy test would be to open a session with all plugins disabled(hold the SHIFT key while opening the session). If the session runs fine that way, then I would drag the Waves plugin files out of the plugins folder and test again. If that runs fine, then you know for sure that Waves needs an update.

[theunder]

I'll give that a shot and report back. Thanks.

[theunder]

Nope, that did nothin. Still crashing. I'm really at a loss. Do I buy a new MBP? Is that the answer? Upgrade to PT9?

[theunder]

I am pulling my hair out!!!!!!! I've been at this for about a month now! Can anyone pleeeaase give me some advice?

Completely uninstalled waves plugins - that didn't work.
Re-installed pro tools another 5 times - that didn't work.
Used an mbox pro 2 instead of my 002r - that didn't cause a crash, but I couldn't even record anything because of the constant 6101 errors.
Tried multiple daisy chain combinations and multiple hard drives with the 002r and the mbox pro 2 - that didn't work either.

So what the hell is it? My interface? My computer? Can tech support please look at my crash report and try and give me some insight?

Thank you!

[JazzyJ]

Have you tried setting the RTAS Engine Processors to ONE instead of the default TWO?

Also, maybe it's worth doing a Waves Uninstall. This means SEARCHING for any files with 'WAVES' in the title, establishing whether they are from WAVES plugins and deleting them.

You'd need to search with a program like EasyFind. They'll be files in the preferences and all over the place. TO TOTALLY DELETE WAVES FILES IS A DIFFICULT JOB. Do some google searches and you'll find where some of the hidden waves files reside......

http://www.devon-technologies.com/fi...syFind.app.zip

I think you'll find that if you can TRULY un-install waves then all will run smoothly and then you can install waves again and it will be smooth.

Whenever a waves installation goes over a previous one there's always problems. The reality is that a Waves un-installer doesn't actually totally uninstall waves products.

[DigiTechSupt]

This could be many things, including bad RAM.

The only way to test RAM and be positive about the results is to remove some or swap it with known good RAM.

Also - have you tested from a new administrator account?

Another thing to try - reinstall the Mac OS X Combo Update for the OS version you currently have installed. Sometimes OS updates/installs are corrupt and installing the Combo Update again can help.

[theunder]

Thank you, I really appreciate the quick response.

I have tried using one processor, forgot to mention that.

I've searched for the waves files and deleted a bunch but i'll double check.

I did buy new RAM in the past 6 months so that could very well be the issue. I'll try re-installing the combo and using another account. I dont have my old RAM to check that so i'll have do these other ideas first.

Thanks again guys.

[DigiTechSupt]

You can always pull out RAM sticks and rotate them in/out to try to determine if you have bad RAM.