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Old 03-16-2001, 02:52 PM
digi98 digi98 is offline
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Default Sample Digi001 budget

What is a fair and reasonable budget to
set yourself up for home recordings
of 3 song demos and/or self-pressed CDs?

Let's assume you've got a 'typical'
4 piece band with vocals, drum set,
acoustic, electric, and bass guitars,
maybe keyboard/synth,
maybe another acoustic instrument or two
to mic like percussion, accordion, piano, etc.

Let's assume you're going to spend $800 on
the Digi001, what should the rest of your
budget look like?

What components and
corresponding
price range of gear is required
to achieve a quality that matches what
you get in the digi001 24 bit 48Khz
A/D converters and PTLE software?

computer w/cd burner, etc. - $1000

microphones - $1000?
mic pre amps - $1000
compressor/limiters
mixing board - $ 500
headphone amps - $ 100
headphones - $ 200
studio power amp $ 500
studio monitors $ 500
cables $ 200
room treatments $ 500

Total $6500 ?

I'm struggling with finding the
right matchup for a digi001
when comparing
the return on investment for
$5000 microphones and $3000 pre amps
which fit an altogether
different professional heavy use budget.
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Old 03-16-2001, 04:22 PM
lwilliam lwilliam is offline
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Default Re: Sample Digi001 budget

A Single AD8000 would blow your whole budget. It depends MORE THAN ANYTHING on your engineering and production chops (other than the talent in the band, of course). A lot of bands have tried to use their advance money to buy the equipment necessary to record it themselves and have had their stuff not-accepted by the record company as it wasn't up to snuff. For independent stuff, it's less important, but you'll still have a HUGE learning curve.

I haven't done this in a while, so I'll give it a shot. Opinions will vary widely - I'm sure.


"What components and corresponding price range of gear is required to achieve a quality that matches what you get in the digi001 24 bit 48Khz A/D converters and PTLE software?

The thing I kept in mind was "quality that matches...the digi001".

computer w/cd burner, etc. - $1000
> maybe that price is OK - for a PC

microphones - $1000?
> maybe a little low; I'd say $350-500 for drum mics; $600-800 for ONE decent vocal mic; depends on whether you want to use the 57s for guitar at the same time and whether you're going DI on the bass or need a 2nd D112. Background vocals? I'd say $1200-1500 minimum.

mic pre amps - $1000
> a Mackie 1604 should do the job. Otherwise, something like an API dual-channel for around $1500 (drum overheads; lead/bk vocals). You could decide later if you need a better preamp than the Mackie VLZ.

compressor/limiters
> Do it in software - nothing cheap in hardware will be worth your while (plugins - $350); well, maybe a couple of RNCs for $175 each.

mixing board - $ 500
> see above on Mackie

headphone amps - $ 100
> $150-300

headphones - $ 200
> A couple of D240s will be that much. Even one 7506 and three AKG 141s will be closer to $350. Remember, cheap headphones won't allow you to hear yourself above the roar of the band - they'll distort.

studio power amp $ 500
> get powered monitors

studio monitors $ 500
> $1000 for some decent powered monitors (maybe less)

cables $ 200
> maybe less - depends on whether you buy Monster cables

room treatments $ 500
> depending on the room, this could go MUCH higher. I estimate at least $1000 if you include any gobos.

Don't forget converters: AI3 - $300?

Don't forget a desk: $200

Total $6500 ?
> Pretty close to my minimum total of $6750. Better figure $7000-8000 minimum.

There will ALWAYS be something you figure out that you need during the process.

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Old 03-16-2001, 09:49 PM
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Default Re: Sample Digi001 budget

i've been trying to figure out a budget to expand, don't forget along they way you might want to get more hard drives, more ram, might be a good idea to get an uninterruptible power supply and a few furman power conditioners for you gear, it's always a good idea to plan for some extra racks. unless you want to have a bunch of gear sitting around all over the room with cables everywhere. good luck.
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Old 03-20-2001, 08:44 AM
mike connelly mike connelly is offline
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Default Re: Sample Digi001 budget

>you get in the digi001 24 bit 48Khz

I'd recommend recording at 44.1, unless you have a specific reason not to.

Do you plan on recording multiple instruments at once, or mostly one at a time - it would be nice to record the group, but you'd save a bundle if you only got enough gear for one at a time.


Mike
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Old 03-20-2001, 08:54 AM
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Default Re: Sample Digi001 budget

I'd like to at least be able to record
bass and drums together, even
if it's a song where you can use a click track.

Are you suggesting to look for
savings around room
isolation, mixer features,
headphone amps, headphones?

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