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Old 04-16-2020, 09:50 PM
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Default Tap into onboard talkback mic without xmon - control cable pinout?

I apologize ahead for being snarky but why the hell hasn't anyone looked it up in a manual? In less than 2 minutes I found a pinout for the DB15. Pin 15 is mic with 8 as ground. Sheesh!


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Not snarky at all...

Thanks for the info. I found these, which would also be helpful.
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Default Re: Tap into onboard talkback mic without xmon - control cable pinout?

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Hi Chris, I believe the onboard talkback mic that is mounted in the meter bridge travels to the xmon via an unbalanced feed in the control cable. It must, otherwise how could it get to the xmon?
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Oh Yeah i guess you could try it and see, i very much doubt if the other features would work without the xmon connected, Dim, Auto-talkback etc or if the talk back button itself would wotrk without an xmon connected, but i just don't know for sure.




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Old 04-17-2020, 04:14 PM
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Default Re: Tap into onboard talkback mic without xmon - control cable pinout?

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I apologize ahead for being snarky but why the hell hasn't anyone looked it up in a manual? In less than 2 minutes I found a pinout for the DB15. Pin 15 is mic with 8 as ground. Sheesh!


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Top Jimmy, I couldn't find it anywhere in the pdf manual...but now you've said it's there I went and found it in the pdf right towards the end...all I can say is you're a better man than I, and thanks for the effort, much appreciated.
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I’m doing the same but I’m now also dealing with my Omni mic pres not adjusting. That’s a story for another post.

I’m going to be buying this and see what I can do (hopefully without breaking something!)
Ryan, I got this working, but as suspected, it's on the whole time, and the talkback button only functions with the xmon, which makes sense. It's a pretty high output and wide pickup but a little noisy. Still have to bring it up an aux channel and use the mute button same as you would with an external talkback mic without a control surface. So the only advantage is that you have a mic in the meter bridge rather than one sitting on the desk. So the wiring was Dsub pin 8 to xlr pin 1, dsub pin 15 to xlr pin 2. xlr pin 3 not connected, connecting it to pin 1 increased the noise floor a little.
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