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Dealing with fx on various VI's and Mixing
This is a question I've had for a while and wanted to get some insights from some of you pros as to how you deal with it. As you all know, nearly every VI, especially the higher end ones, come with their onboard fx of all sorts. The issue I want to address is how do you deal with all those fx when you commit to audio for final mixing? I'm especially thinking more of reverbs and delays than other stuff. Most of the other fx are more for shaping the patch the way you want it to sound.
So, if I have a patch in, say, Dune 2, and I have some Dune 2 delay and/or reverb, I really don't like to commit to audio with that as I would have to keep re-doing it as I tweak the mix with that patch and its fx. On the other hand, its not always a simple matter of adding another reverb and/or delay either, because quite often the built in fx on the VI sound really great. A couple VI's (ie, Serum) have provided their FX as an FX only option, so you can easily duplicate just the fx to any patch committed to audio. But not many VI's do that. So, what the pro tips here? Thanks
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Re: Dealing with fx on various VI's and Mixing
Hmmmm, this is a really good question, and I look forward to reading what others do. Having said that, I'll offer my own preference;
1-if I am really committed to what I am hearing from the VI plugin, I will likely commit it, just as it is(probably with following plugins kept "live") 2-re VI plugins in general, I(personal choice) often don't use the built-in effects, and will choose my own in the same way I treat real instrument processing. Why? Mostly because, by choosing my own effects, I can create an overall sound that is not a carbon copy of the thousand other users of that same VI(example: Superior Drummer has a bunch of ambient and room sounds, which I usually leave off. I use my own "drum room" (from my choice of plugins that include Avid SPACE, IK Classik Room, Eventide T-verb, Abbey Road Chambers) so my drum tracks, done with SD don't sound exactly like the next hundred SD users
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Re: Dealing with fx on various VI's and Mixing
Dave - Thanks for the reply. I also hope others weigh in. I agree with you regarding drums. I hardly ever use any of the drum fx for any of the drum VI's I use and normally just record the raw drum part, just like I would a live kit, and then process accordingly.
Synth patches are another matter, though. Quite often I find the built in reverb or delay sounds just right for the patch, but once committed, you can't tweak, so I either have to go back to the instrument track and re-tweak and re-commit or settle for a different fx after committing. I'm probably making too big a deal about this, but I have wondered what the pro tip is for this.
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Re: Dealing with fx on various VI's and Mixing
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Re: Dealing with fx on various VI's and Mixing
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What Dave said...more input please! Want to hear some ideas on this!
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Re: Dealing with fx on various VI's and Mixing
It's all your fault Donald, you said you wanted to hear the pros
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Re: Dealing with fx on various VI's and Mixing
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Oh, you're hilarious, Andrei. You're a pro! (and don't try to say you're not, I know better!)
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Re: Dealing with fx on various VI's and Mixing
My bank account strongly disagree
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Re: Dealing with fx on various VI's and Mixing
So, what makes one a "Pro"? Is the amount of money earned? Do you have to be full time? I've often wondered where the line is between Pro and not-Pro. (perhaps this is for another thread!)
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