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Re: HDX end-of-cycle?
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At this point, the only reason to buy the HD Native card/Thunderbolt is if you need to record more than 32 inputs at the same time. And the HDX system gets you into the game for recording more than 64 inputs at the same time (Yes, I know you need 2 HDX cards to do it, but you have to have the first one anyway). Otherwise, just buy the HD software.
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Re: HDX end-of-cycle?
The post I was responding to was referring to HDX2 vs. HDnative (which is the most logical next step up from HDn since HDX1 has the same amount of voices.
Actually HDX1 can have much less when you think about bussing and native plugins. A large surround session with native plugs that runs fine on HDn will definitely not run on HDX1 and might not even run on HDX2 in some cases. This is very easy to prove. If you tend to run large track count and lots of busses etc. I'd recommend HDn over HDX1 any time. In this case HDX1 is actually a step down if voice count is your priority. If you need zero latency monitoring and only track 16-20 mic-ins as your daily business HDX1 can be an advantage. So as I said it depends on what your criteria is. Just trying to give some perspective to the OP. F.
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I'm not sure how you're coming to this conclusion. You realize that an HDX rig can still run all the plugins as Native too right? Am I missing something?
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Agree 100%. I feel like HDX was a complete waste of money for me. I would never need to track more then 64 inputs at a time, will never have a session with a 256 track count, and have thousands invested into plugs that will never support AAX DSP. I've been thinking about selling my hdx card and just grabbing a used native card off ebay for a while now |
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Re: HDX end-of-cycle?
while mixing yes but not for input monitoring. I've had to create alternate channel strips with the avid dsp plugs for tracking vocals.
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But tracking i just use aax dsp. But then again. The native one just grey out in record so it still works. The cue sends are post plug ins pre fader I believe. I'm having no issues using native plugs at all. I can run a truck load of them. 12 core Mac pro. Sent from my SM-G935V using Tapatalk |
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Waves?
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You lose voices when using native plugins in HDX just like you did with TDM. On a much smaller scale of course because the system has way more voices available than TDM but the principle remains. With heavy bussing and native plugins in Auxes etc. playback voices are "stolen" so in very large sessions the HDX will start to de-activate tracks as it needs lots of extra voices for the native plugs. It's probably not an issue for music folks but us film post people do run into this problem. Session plays fine on HDn but on HDX1 it won't play all the tracks. Frank.
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Or are you specifically saying HDx1? |
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What I'm saying is that you have to be aware of the fact that on HDX1 you will not always be able to play back 256 tracks (or the equivalent mono legs) depending on your session structure and the amount of native plugins. On HDn you will always be able to play back 246 mono track no matter how complex your bussing or plugin setup. Not so on HDX. But since there's almost no way around using native plugs you'll always have some of them (Reverbs, Dolby Panner etc. etc) . As a result you might be surprised how few DSP chips and voices you have on HDX1 or even HDX2 when you take your HDn session to such a stage. It's essentially the exact same thing that happened on TDM when you had RTAS plugs in your session. Just on a different scale. Many of the large HDn surround fx sessions will not play back on HDX1. All I wanted to add was that this might be something to consider for the OP. It might not matter to him when he's tracking bands with 10 mics but since he didn't say what his field is I added this info. Example: HDX1 for example will not be able to play back certain large HDn sessions even though they both have 256 voices. So with that in mind: Moving from HDn to HDX1 can actually be a step down not up. Frank.
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