No PT12HD subscription plan?

[Tim R.]

apologies if this had been discussed elsewhere, but I'm looking at the "subscription" options in the AVID store. I don't see an option to get PT12HD as a monthly subscription. I'm only seeing PT12 as a subscription option which I assume is the "Vanilla" version since a 12 mo subscription is only $300 and the PT12HD "upgrade and annual Upgrade plan" is $600 a year.

[propower]

You also see no flexible license plans for HD or any details on what happens to an expired HD license.

[roberts]

Originally Posted by Tim R.

apologies if this had been discussed elsewhere, but I'm looking at the "subscription" options in the AVID store. I don't see an option to get PT12HD as a monthly subscription.

There are no subscriptions to HD - Subscription Plan and Support Plan or very DIFFERENT THINGS

[Tim R.]

Originally Posted by roberts

There are no subscriptions to HD - Subscription Plan and Support Plan or very DIFFERENT THINGS

I get the difference between Subscription and support plans, but you are saying there are no and never will be HD Subscription plans? I find that hard to believe. AVID has stated (though not explicitly about HD) that if you don't get on a support plan by the end of 2015 you will have to resort to a subscription option. Just seems that they aren't telling us what that subscription plan will cost quite yet

[ronwasserman]

Originally Posted by Tim R.

I get the difference between Subscription and support plans, but you are saying there are no and never will be HD Subscription plans? I find that hard to believe. AVID has stated (though not explicitly about HD) that if you don't get on a support plan by the end of 2015 you will have to resort to a subscription option. Just seems that they aren't telling us what that subscription plan will cost quite yet

It's $599 a year. Hard to find at the store, but that's the cost.

[propower]

Originally Posted by ronwasserman

It's $599 a year. Hard to find at the store, but that's the cost.

My understanding is that $599 is the price for the yearly support plan. There really is nothing yet announced for "Flexible license" and/or a straight subscription plan, or the final disposition of what about people with expired HD licenses (as in no support plan on 1/1/16).

I was not aware that a company could even sell a license without disclosing these things (the terms of the sale) but here we are.

[ArKay99]

Originally Posted by propower

My understanding is that $599 is the price for the yearly support plan. There really is nothing yet announced for "Flexible license" and/or a straight subscription plan, or the final disposition of what about people with expired HD licenses (as in no support plan on 1/1/16).

I was not aware that a company could even sell a license without disclosing these things (the terms of the sale) but here we are.

Why I bailed. Too much drama.

[CygnusX-1Bk2]

You really have to look through the "store" to find anything referencing HD but I found it and the only available option is an "Annual Upgrade Plan" for $599.
https://shop.avid.com/ccrz__ProductD...03&&store=shop

Except for the Upgrade to 10HD from 7/8 for $1500/$2500.

Nothing about stand alone HD license options. Which begs the question: what will be the upgrade from 11HD to 13HD be after only a handful decide to jump this time?

[Tim R.]

Originally Posted by CygnusX-1Bk2

what will be the upgrade from 11HD to 13HD be after only a handful decide to jump this time?

This is the core of my question. AVID has stated that if you don't get on the "SUPPORT PLAN" by the end of 2015 you will have the option to get a "SUBSCRIPTION PLAN" after that, but they just aren't telling what that would cost yet (I guess).

And again, people need to understand the difference between "Support" and "Subscription" plans.

[MaoZhengfu]

Support plans give you one year of ExpertPlus Support for Pro Tools HD. You get unlimited support for billing and administration cases (response time within one business day), continual software upgrades, unlimited troubleshooting online support (response time within four hours), and unlimited troubleshooting phone calls (highest priority support).

There are no subscription plans for Pro Tools HD. Personally, I don't think that a subscription plan would make sense in this case. If you had a subscription, your HD hardware would be useless anytime your subscription wasn't active.

Subscriptions make sense for new vanilla Pro Tools users to make low payments to get access to the software. It's cheaper, but if you let your subscription lapse, you no longer have access to the software. That's the difference between buying and subscribing.