It's simple: don't upgrade.

[danander11]

To put it into context...

The PT9HD to PT10HD upgrade is $999 for a "stepping stone" upgrade.. (which does not take into account any ancillary costs to plugins, computers, etc.. that are going to arise). TDM people will only get a limited set of features at that.. at least until they up to Native o HDX.

If they are banging us a grand for just a few features, how expensive is the next 'upgrade' going to be? especially if they go 64 bit?

I find it funny that they've used the "you spoke and we listened" line.. doesn't seem so from here.

[propower]

LE owners who bought CPTK...... avg investment $2K PT hardware $2K software = $299 upgrade.......

HD TDM ........ $10K+ investment software+hardware = $999 upgrade.......

HD|N --- at least $3.5K investment within the last year = $999 upgrade.......

Just sayin.........

[Dnnspv]

I decided not to upgrade simply because PT 9.0.3 is solid and meeting my needs just fine.

I am however very interested it what the upgrade price will look like for PT 11 if it is 64 bit next year. This is what concerns me considering the current upgrade model. Everyone says if you don't need the upgrade then don't... Of course that makes sense. However, what Avid says is but you should have upgraded anyway, so pay an extra $200 because you didn't.

Regardless of one's financial situation, no one wants to spend money if they think that they are being charged unfairly. IMO, $300 should be the max for upgrading from any PT native version. If I had to bend then I'd say at least the past two versions.

I completely understand what goes into development regarding upgrades. But if you want to talk about supporting the company... I purchased the DAW... Purchased three Mboxes... Purchased a toolkit... Purchased several Avid plugs like Pultec EQ bundle... Purchased each AIR instrument before they were included in a bundle... Purchased M-Powered for a third rig.

This is why the current upgrade model is in question. The company is getting money and support from customers like me. I pay full price for company products. But don't charge me near full price again if I decide to skip an upgrade that I don't need.

[M-ManLA]

Woah. Funny how people complain about the new update.

It's even funnier once I think about it, how people wanted quicker updates.

Lets all be real hear. We all, included me, wanted Avid to come out with quicker updates. Now we complain about it. I learned early in this business, you want stuff quicker, you have to pay for it. It is what it is.

I remember buying the PS3 when MGS4 came out, at a "cheap" $560. I did think it was pricey, but I bought it. Did my pockets hurt. For a month yes, but I was extremely satisfied with my purchase, as I use it for most of my TV entertainment besides my DirecTV.

What I'm trying to say is this. You want features? You want quicker updates? You will pay for it.

Heck, in that case, why don't I hear people complaining about the cost of the new iPhone 4S? I mean, the iPhone 4 barely been out for a year or so, and the new one has minor upgrades, but no one complains about spending an upwards of $260 for a new version. No one. Even if it was flawed like the 4 was. People still bought it.

Now it is sad to see people talking PT9 down, to some of the same people that praised it when it came out. ADC alone was worth it's weight in gold, and was, at least to me, most likely the most solid PT system I have messed with besides 7.4. I say that Avid has been clearing off the Ideascale forums a lot too by giving us what they want, and they need to be compensated for it. If you don't like the price, well, no one is holding a gun to your head to buy it.

Since we just had one of the machines just upgraded at the beginning of the month, I just downloaded 10, but we probably wait until the end of the semester to give it a spin. I will most likely upgrade to 10 next year. I mean, 50 new features, big or small, is an achievement. One that most software programmers won't be able to do in the amount of time. It is the "Value" you have to look at. Heck, I've seen drug deals more expensive than the upgrades.

Do I wish it would cost less. Of coarse. I wish it was more like $200 (Also Melodyne is having two versions up from me right now). Do I wish it would of came out later. Sure. Do I wish it had 64-bit. I really want it to be. But for now, we have 10. I do have to upgrade not only my interface, but will be facing a new Computer build next year. But you can only ask for so much without having to pay for it. Just the way the world turns.

[CME]

Originally Posted by Dnnspv

(snip)

Everyone says if you don't need the upgrade then don't... Of course that makes sense. However, what Avid says is but you should have upgraded anyway, so pay an extra $200 because you didn't.

(snip)

Not really. If I had skipped the pt9 cross grade it would have saved me $100.

Pt9 cross grade $299 + pt10 upgrade from 9 $299 = $598

Pt10 upgrade from LE = $499

Hoping pt11 is the same. Or maybe I can find a good deal on a pt10 license in a couple of months.


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[Marsdy]

Heck, in that case, why don't I hear people complaining about the cost of the new iPhone 4S? I mean, the iPhone 4 barely been out for a year or so, and the new one has minor upgrades, but no one complains about spending an upwards of $260 for a new version. No one. Even if it was flawed like the 4 was. People still bought it.

They would be complaining if the iPhone 4S cost 200% more than the one it replaced. It doesn't though.

[Dnnspv]

Originally Posted by M-ManLA

Woah. Funny how people complain about the new update.

It's even funnier once I think about it, how people wanted quicker updates.

Lets all be real hear. We all, included me, wanted Avid to come out with quicker updates. Now we complain about it. I learned early in this business, you want stuff quicker, you have to pay for it. It is what it is.

I remember buying the PS3 when MGS4 came out, at a "cheap" $560. I did think it was pricey, but I bought it. Did my pockets hurt. For a month yes, but I was extremely satisfied with my purchase, as I use it for most of my TV entertainment besides my DirecTV.

What I'm trying to say is this. You want features? You want quicker updates? You will pay for it.

Heck, in that case, why don't I hear people complaining about the cost of the new iPhone 4S? I mean, the iPhone 4 barely been out for a year or so, and the new one has minor upgrades, but no one complains about spending an upwards of $260 for a new version. No one. Even if it was flawed like the 4 was. People still bought it.

Now it is sad to see people talking PT9 down, to some of the same people that praised it when it came out. ADC alone was worth it's weight in gold, and was, at least to me, most likely the most solid PT system I have messed with besides 7.4. I say that Avid has been clearing off the Ideascale forums a lot too by giving us what they want, and they need to be compensated for it. If you don't like the price, well, no one is holding a gun to your head to buy it.

Since we just had one of the machines just upgraded at the beginning of the month, I just downloaded 10, but we probably wait until the end of the semester to give it a spin. I will most likely upgrade to 10 next year. I mean, 50 new features, big or small, is an achievement. One that most software programmers won't be able to do in the amount of time. It is the "Value" you have to look at. Heck, I've seen drug deals more expensive than the upgrades.

Do I wish it would cost less. Of coarse. I wish it was more like $200 (Also Melodyne is having two versions up from me right now). Do I wish it would of came out later. Sure. Do I wish it had 64-bit. I really want it to be. But for now, we have 10. I do have to upgrade not only my interface, but will be facing a new Computer build next year. But you can only ask for so much without having to pay for it. Just the way the world turns.

It's also funny how when it's not an issue for some it's called complaining. When it is an issue for them then it is a professional request. It's not complaining when I'm buying Avid products. I hope Avid doesn't think like some of the folks here.

I did not ask for the upgrade price from 9 to 10 to be lower. Others needed this post related release... I didn't. I'm asking that the upgrade from 9 to 11 stay at the same $299 price since PT 11 64 bit is what I need. I would not want to pay near full price for the software because I did not need this one. Yes they need to be compensated. Why should they be compensated more if I choose to upgrade later? How does that work? That could be the case based on the current model.

And who cares about an iphone? I'm with Verizion and have a simple phone that was free with my plan.

[Dnnspv]

Originally Posted by CME

Not really. If I had skipped the pt9 cross grade it would have saved me $100.

Pt9 cross grade $299 + pt10 upgrade from 9 $299 = $598

Pt10 upgrade from LE = $499

Hoping pt11 is the same. Or maybe I can find a good deal on a pt10 license in a couple of months.


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The PT 9 cross grade for me was $250. Two things...

1) Quite naturally the cross grade from LE 8 to 9 was cheaper than upgrading from 9 to 10.

2) It would have been $548 instead of $499 for PT 10 had I skipped 9... A nice $50 savings to make it not feel like almost paying for the software again. It's still a lot more than $299 if they keep that model with PT 11. That's what I'm hoping doesn't happen.

[Logichead]

I think the real reason for the high ($!k) upgrade for 9HD users is this:

Avid doesn't want us to keep our TDM rigs. They want us to trade them in.

Best...H

[sunburst79]

Originally Posted by Logichead

I think the real reason for the high ($!k) upgrade for 9HD users is this:

Avid doesn't want us to keep our TDM rigs. They want us to trade them in.

Best...H

Reading between the lines its obvious from PT11 onward Avid wants everyone on HD Native, HDX, or a MBox3/11Rack from a hardware standpoint. With a more modern code base and a 64bit compliant software and hardware I suspect come PT12 we will see Pro Tools begin to add features and workflow enhancements again rather than playing catch up from the coding standpoint.

PT11 will be the equivalent of changing trains at the platform level. New train, New track. Just a little hobo perspective.