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[feliponk]

Originally Posted by musicman691

Let me get this straight:
Duende is an emulation of the C series hardware
Everyone else's emulations are from the 4000 series consoles right?

Then:
Is there any real substantive difference between the two emulation sets other than sound?

The C series is a digital console with a DSP that emulates the SSL E and G channel strip sound and behavior, hence it's an emulation from them of their 4000 series, see attached

[Eric Lambert]

Originally Posted by feliponk

The C series is a digital console with a DSP that emulates the SSL E and G channel strip sound and behavior, hence it's an emulation from them of their 4000 series, see attached

This always gets confusing. Though a particular feature (not the entire channel, just an optional feature) models the curves of the 4000 I don't think you could say that the C generally 'emulates' the 4000, and as Duende is pulled from the C it's no more a 4000 than is the C. They will be reminiscent of each other (as putting them to use will reveal) but they will not sound the same. In fact, it's the 9000 which is more akin to Duende.

I don't know if it's because Duende comes from the C and Waves goes after the 4000, or if SSL is simply better at the SSL sound (makes sense), but Duende "sounds" better imo. I'm not sure what there is beyond that, unless we collect plugins just to twist knobs and futz with sliders. It's all about the sound.

[feliponk]

Originally Posted by Eric Lambert

I don't know if it's because Duende comes from the C and Waves goes after the 4000, or if SSL is simply better at the SSL sound (makes sense), but Duende "sounds" better imo. I'm not sure what there is beyond that, unless we collect plugins just to twist knobs and futz with sliders. It's all about the sound.

I agree, it's all about the sound, and not the marketing

[musicman691]

Originally Posted by feliponk

The C series is a digital console with a DSP that emulates the SSL E and G channel strip sound and behavior, hence it's an emulation from them of their 4000 series, see attached

So the Duende is an emulation of an emulation then?

[nst7]

Originally Posted by musicman691

So the Duende is an emulation of an emulation then?

Yes, kind of like Inception.

[groundcontrol]

It 's not an emulation, it 's a port.

[nst7]

Well, technically it's a port of an emulation.

[feliponk]

or emulated port?

[musicman691]

Originally Posted by feliponk

or emulated port?

I'd rather drink some port (or a nice chianti with fava beans)

[simon.a.billington]

LOL... You guys are funny

I have the Waves, but I should check out the Slate, and Duende, just to see what people are talking about.

I'm just conscientious that some of these emulations are reproducing the prepaid, that's fine, but it's exactly the same pregain on every instance which would lead to harmonic build up in exactly the same space, and that leads to muddy mixes.

Which is why I favoured the approach or the NLS because there are 32 channels of subtle variations there with their own harmonic characteristic, so they are less likely to build up. But as you would anticipate, if I'm using the NLS pregain it becomes a less favourable idea to use them in conjunction with other pregains.