overall slowness

[tonejunkee]

Hello, I ran every possible Windows 7 DAW tweak before installing PT9. Now there is a very annoying lag between actaully clicking on the mouse, and the line showinging up on the mix window. This also happens when moving a region or anything else. Am I missing something here? It's actaully slower than PT8 on XP (same box, different drive)

I did this to finally access my 8GB and now it's actually slower

[albee1952]

Interesting as my rig got much faster going from XP to Win7 64 bit. 2 things to check, if you have open end record allocation(in preferences), change it to 15 minutes(or more if the project requires it). The other is to check your RAM timings in BIOS. With my rig, the AUTO setting netted awful performance. Setting RAM timings manually made a huge improvement. If none of this helps, try posting a Sandra report as it might help you get better advice

[tonejunkee]

Every mouse click has a lag before showing the cursor. How might one check RAM timing info, etc? Here's the report:


SiSoftware Sandra

Computer
Model : System manufacturer P5QL PRO
Workgroup : WORKGROUP
Host Name : 7-PC
User : 7

Processor
Model : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q9400 @ 2.66GHz
Speed : 2.66GHz
Cores per Processor : 4 Unit(s)
Threads per Core : 1 Unit(s)
Type : Quad-Core
Integrated Data Cache : 4x 32kB, Synchronous, Write-Thru, 8-way, 64 byte line size
L2 On-board Cache : 2x 3MB, ECC, Synchronous, ATC, 12-way, 64 byte line size, 2 threads sharing

Computer
Mainboard : Asus P5QL PRO
BIOS : AMI 1001 03/12/2009
Bus(es) : ISA X-Bus PCI PCIe IMB USB FireWire/1394 i2c/SMBus
Multi-Processor (MP) Support : No
Multi-Processor Advanced PIC (APIC) : Yes
Total Memory : 8GB DIMM DDR2

Chipset
Model : ASUS P45/P43/G45/G43 DRAM Controller
Front Side Bus Speed : 4x 333MHz (1.33GHz)
Total Memory : 8GB DIMM DDR2
Channels : 2
Memory Bus Speed : 2x 333MHz (666MHz)

Memory Module(s)
Memory Module : Crucial RM25664AA80016FH 2GB DIMM DDR2 PC2-6400U DDR2-800 (5-6-6-18 3-23-6-3)
Memory Module : Corsair CM2X2048-6400C5 2GB DIMM DDR2 PC2-6400U DDR2-800 (5-5-5-18 3-22-6-3)
Memory Module : Crucial RM25664AA80016FH 2GB DIMM DDR2 PC2-6400U DDR2-800 (5-6-6-18 3-23-6-3)
Memory Module : Corsair CM2X2048-6400C5 2GB DIMM DDR2 PC2-6400U DDR2-800 (5-5-5-18 3-22-6-3)

Video System
Video Adapter : NVIDIA GeForce 8400 GS (Microsoft Corporation - WDDM v1.1) (8 SM4.0 1.4GHz, 512MB DDR2 2x400MHz, PCIe 2.00 x16)

Graphics Processor

Storage Devices
Seagate ST3500418AS (500.1GB, SATA300, 3.5", 7200rpm, NCQ, 16MB Cache) : 466GB (E:) (F:)
Seagate ST3500418AS (500.1GB, SATA300, 3.5", 7200rpm, NCQ, 16MB Cache) : 466GB (D:)
Seagate ST31000528AS (1TB, SATA300, 3.5", 7200rpm, NCQ) : 932GB (C:)
Generic USB SD Reader (USB) : N/A (I:)
Generic USB CF Reader (USB) : N/A (J:)
Generic USB xD/SM Reader (USB) : N/A (K:)
Generic USB MS Reader (USB) : N/A (L:)
Ut165 USB2FlashStorage 1GB (USB) : 964MB (H:)
ATAPI iHAS224 Y (SATA150, DVD+-RW, CD-RW, 2MB Cache) : N/A (G:)

Logical Storage Devices
Hard Disk (E:) : 128GB (NTFS) @ Seagate ST3500418AS (500.1GB, SATA300, 3.5", 7200rpm, NCQ, 16MB Cache)
PRO TOOLS (D:) : 466GB (NTFS) @ Seagate ST3500418AS (500.1GB, SATA300, 3.5", 7200rpm, NCQ, 16MB Cache)
Hard Disk (C:) : 932GB (NTFS) @ Seagate ST31000528AS (1TB, SATA300, 3.5", 7200rpm, NCQ)
Removable Drive (H:) : 964MB (FAT) @ Ut165 USB2FlashStorage 1GB (USB)
Hard Disk (F:) : 338GB (NTFS) @ Seagate ST3500418AS (500.1GB, SATA300, 3.5", 7200rpm, NCQ, 16MB Cache)
Removable Drive (I:) : N/A @ Generic USB SD Reader (USB)
Removable Drive (J:) : N/A @ Generic USB CF Reader (USB)
Removable Drive (K:) : N/A @ Generic USB xD/SM Reader (USB)
Removable Drive (L:) : N/A @ Generic USB MS Reader (USB)
Optical Drive (G:) : N/A @ ATAPI iHAS224 Y (SATA150, DVD+-RW, CD-RW, 2MB Cache)

Peripherals
LPC Hub Controller 1 : ASUS LPC Interface Controller
LPC Legacy Controller 1 : T0 A5-13
Audio Device : ASUS HD Audio Controller
Audio Codec : Realtek Semiconductor 888 High Definition Audio
Disk Controller : ASUS 4 port SATA IDE Controller
Disk Controller : ASUS 2 port SATA IDE Controller
USB Controller 1 : ASUS USB UHCI Controller #4
USB Controller 2 : ASUS USB UHCI Controller #5
USB Controller 3 : ASUS USB UHCI Controller #6
USB Controller 4 : ASUS USB EHCI Controller #2
USB Controller 5 : ASUS USB UHCI Controller #1
USB Controller 6 : ASUS USB UHCI Controller #2
USB Controller 7 : ASUS USB UHCI Controller #3
USB Controller 8 : ASUS USB EHCI Controller #1
FireWire/1394 Controller 1 : Avlab Technology TSB43AB23 1394a-2000 OHCI PHY/link-layer Controller
SMBus/i2c Controller 1 : Intel 801xx/63xx SMBus

Printers and Faxes
Printer : Microsoft XPS Document Writer (600x600, Colour)
Fax : Microsoft Shared Fax Driver (200x200)

Network Services
Network Adapter : Atheros AR8121/AR8113/AR8114 PCI-E Ethernet Controller(NDIS6.20) (Ethernet, 100Mbps)

Power Management
Mains (AC) Line Status : On-Line

Operating System
Windows System : Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 6.01.7601 (Service Pack 1)
Platform Compliance : x64

Windows Experience Index
Current System : 4.4

[spenner]

Originally Posted by tonejunkee

I did this to finally access my 8GB and now it's actually slower

Just as long as you know that PT can't access more than 4GB, and 3 - 3.7GB on some systems.

Originally Posted by tonejunkee

Memory Module(s)
Memory Module : Crucial RM25664AA80016FH 2GB DIMM DDR2 PC2-6400U DDR2-800 (5-6-6-18 3-23-6-3)
Memory Module : Corsair CM2X2048-6400C5 2GB DIMM DDR2 PC2-6400U DDR2-800 (5-5-5-18 3-22-6-3)
Memory Module : Crucial RM25664AA80016FH 2GB DIMM DDR2 PC2-6400U DDR2-800 (5-6-6-18 3-23-6-3)
Memory Module : Corsair CM2X2048-6400C5 2GB DIMM DDR2 PC2-6400U DDR2-800 (5-5-5-18 3-22-6-3)

Your RAM timings stand out. Each Module should be manually set to the same timing. You have different brands, which could be a problem; however, 5-5-5-15 seems to be a good base setting for DDR2-800.

[tonejunkee]

I meant Windows accessing the 8GB, but dot not know about the PT9 limitation. How can I set the RAM timing to 5-5-5-15 ???

[YYR123]

Originally Posted by tonejunkee

but dot not know about the PT9 limitation.

How can I set the RAM timing to 5-5-5-15 ???

Yeah you know about it it's been all over this forum for years - no 64bit Pro Tools...anyway.

Manually setting the RAM timings will be done in the BIOS of your system.

Youtube should be able to help you out with specifics. But is shouldn't be that hard. I have a ASUS board and it was pretty easy.

[spenner]

Originally Posted by tonejunkee

How can I set the RAM timing to 5-5-5-15 ???

Like YYR123 said, it's done in the BIOS under Memory Settings. I don't use ASUS so yeah, maybe YouTube can help you out on how to get there. Or, try the manual.

[tonejunkee]

It turns out I had the new install of PT9 on Windows 7 storing projects on the same drive...This was the problem, not the memory settings, which by the way have zero documentation in the manual. That's right, not a shred of info about the massive amount of settings in the BIOS. nothing ...at all, anywhere - youtube yeilded maybe 2 videos of people unboxing the motherboard

[spenner]

Originally Posted by tonejunkee

It turns out I had the new install of PT9 on Windows 7 storing projects on the same drive...This was the problem, not the memory settings, which by the way have zero documentation in the manual. That's right, not a shred of info about the massive amount of settings in the BIOS. nothing ...at all, anywhere - youtube yeilded maybe 2 videos of people unboxing the motherboard

Getting to the memory settings shouldn't be too difficult. Just comb through the BIOS tabs to find the one displaying the memory options... Change from Auto to Manual, then set each module's CL, tRCD, tRD, and tRAS as follows:

CL 5
tRCD 5
tRD 5
tRAS 15

RAM timings is the culprit in many cases but, if all is now working well and stable then I wouldn't worry about it.

[YYR123]

Originally Posted by spenner

RAM timings is the culprit in many cases but, if all is now working well and stable then I wouldn't worry about it.

+1


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