MOTU 828 versus Digi001

[Mr Scary P4P]

MOTU 828 versus Digi001.

Id venture to say that if PTLE 5.1 worked on the MOTU 828 that everybody would sell their Digi001's. Am I correct?

[Mark_Knecht]

Hi,
If PTLE supported an open hardware platform, then I would certainly be tempted to try other pieces of hardware.

Personally I'm not sure I'd sell the 001 because it has an ADAT and s/pdif input, but since I can get those in other $200 sound cards, maybe I would...

I'm not sure the 828 is the right solution. I haven't heard that unit's preamps, but certainly I'd like the opportunity to try.

Cheers,
Mark

[lochgarman1798]

At least MOTU/Digital Performer allow or somone else has developed VST wrapper(is that what it is called?) so that you can use VST (and VST instruments in their program.
Still no sign of Digidesign(or anybody else) doing this.
This means that we have the only program which is incompatible with VST,(and DX as well!) which is the industry standard and can be used in every other major sequencing software.
I guess I have to continue using Logic for the above.
Digital Performer seems to be getting more popular over here in Europe over the last six months and Sonar as well. But Logic and Cubase still are way ahead.
Cheers! John Kiernan

[pk_hat]

I think the whole M-Box project is 2 steps forward and 10 steps back.

Why create such a unit? Well, mostly for portability reasons, I can only assume, right? Fair enough, who wouldn't like a device that lets them record at home, then take it with them anywhere they go!

Having said that, Digi creates a device that is already years behind it's fiercest competitor at his present time, that being MOTU. The latter have just released their second (!) firewire soundcard/preamp/midi breakout box. Should it follow closely in the 828's footsteps, the new 896 interface is perhaps nothing short of spectacular?

I absolutely love working in ProTools but find it rather disapointing that this once highly anticipated "digi 002" is nothing more than a little cable modem looking device that hooks on USB (which began showing signs of extinction last year!), and no midi I/O, thus having to go out and buy another little box to hook up to our little laptops and synths and make happy little recordings. So much for portability.

Why couldn't they just be smart about it and give us true functionality! Couldn't they make us wait a bit longer and give us something like an 828 or 896 and charge us a bit more, even $1k!!!!!????? [img]images/icons/mad.gif[/img]

sigh...there's always PT Free...

pk

[Mr Scary P4P]

pk_hat,

I couldnt have said it better myself.

SOOOO tempted to use ProTools FREE with the MOTU 828.

FIREWIRE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[GP]

Wouldn't work on the system I was trying it on...pro tools free with 828.

[pk_hat]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:<HR>Originally posted by GP:
Wouldn't work on the system I was trying it on...pro tools free with 828.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Hmm...that' odd.
From what I remember, PT Free was marketed with the intent of using any hardware besides Digidesign's.
If there really is an issue with MOTU hardware and PT Free, well then, they sure managed to rain on what could have been a little parade.


pk

[Mr Scary P4P]

well that sucks

[Chucky]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:<HR>Originally posted by pk_hat:
I think the whole M-Box project is 2 steps forward and 10 steps back.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I think you may be pining for a different product. Just because the M-Box doesn't do what you want it to doesn't mean it's a bad design, or is somehow "wrong." It sounds like what you're looking for is something like a firewire version of the 001. M-Box isn't anywhere near this, and not because Digi doesn't have the technical chops to pull it off. It's a different target market, different product.

With M-Box, you get a really, truly portable audio interface that allows you to take ProTools LE around with you and your laptop. It's even powered from USB - one wire! It doesn't require firewire, because USB has more than enough bandwidth for the (few) audio channels the M-Box supports. And FAR more computers have USB than have firewire, so it will be compatible with more machines (which I think is a great selling point; so many people seem to think firewire is a requirement for everything these days, even when it doesn't make sense). It costs less than $500, including the ProTools software. That's an amazing deal. No, it's not an 828 or a firewire 001. It's not supposed to be. On its own merits, I think it's wonderful.

Perhaps you should lament the fact that Digi hasn't developed a firewire 001 yet, rather than bagging on a product that doesn't even pretend to serve your needs? I don't think Digi should have been discouraged from making the M-Box just because some users don't need one.

C.

[who]

The fact that the Mbox is only 2 in 2 out makes it useless to me. Too bad. [img]images/icons/rolleyes.gif[/img]