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Re: 33 day countdown! Time to stick?
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I think there are just a couple considerations – I am doing the same calculation as well… 1) If you are on Win 10, I think it is possible to freeze at 2020.5 and retain long term use – on Mac that is a much more difficult calculation – it seems each Mac update breaks something in ProTools (YMMV) 2) Is there a feature you can think of (anything) that would really ‘move the bar’ for you if ProTools implemented it ? 3) Is there a current BUG in 2020.5 that is affecting you in any way – right now, for me, on Win 10, 2020.5 is the most stable and snappy version for a while. I have had no crashes (or stops ! ) and I can record 16 Audio tracks, 3 Kontakt VSTs, and a few Waves plugs at 24/96 with 64 bit buffer on MOTU 1248 with no issues for more than 3 hours continuous recording. 4) Is there a feature on ANY other DAW that you really covet that CAN NOT be implemented with a AAX plugin ? I agree ARA might be nice, but is it a feature that is worth $200 per year to hope they implement it? 5) Even if ProTools does add a new (useful) feature, how many versions are you willing to wait until all the introduced BUGS have been removed ? I have been on PT since 9.0, each time they have introduced a new great feature it has taken a while to stabilize. 6) Is the Folder implementation a sign of things to come ? One of the most poorly considered ‘features’ IMHO that ProTools has attempted to implement – currently unusable, for all the reasons I have listed in the sticki. In the past I have been pretty impressed on the way Avid has implemented new features ! Why was Folder Tracks so poorly implemented ? 7) IMHO I do not think there is any MEANINGFUL sonic improvement possible with ProTools. There is no ‘sound of ProTools’. 8) Is is a classic case of FOMO ? Let’s say over the next 2 years Avid implements a feature that no one saw coming (dunno ?), but is super useful to your workflow. Well, you have saved $400, made more music because you weren’t unnecessarily constantly updating your DAW, but now you gotta go on the Subscription model, or pay a bit more than you saved and rebuy the perpetual license (if they still sell it then). It is currently the same price – 2 years of subscription, or buy the perpetual 9) So what are the odds that Avid fixes a critical bug impacting you, or adds a feature that you just gotta have over the next year. If it takes 2 years the price is the same. 10) And finally, how much would you hate not being able to come to this forum and complain about ProTools ? IMHO, YMMV. ejinbc |
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Re: 33 day countdown! Time to stick?
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Re: 33 day countdown! Time to stick?
You can always freeze Pro Tools and your current OS and install a second bootable OS to keep moving forward with your other software if needed, that’s provided the current version of PT is working fine for you. Use that money and buy a another DAW of your choice or plugins or just put the money aside and save it for a future Pro Tools that might offer you a reason to jump back in at a later date. At least you don’t have to worry about them breaking it again. I admit it’s a gamble but It’s one I’m willing to take. Especially since I’m using Studio One 5.0 mostly now. I waited almost 3yrs last time on reinstatement’s. I saved about $1200.00 or more on Ultimate but it also depends on the reinstatement offer at that time or if there is even going to be another reinstatement offer. As it stands the mind of Avid is heavily into subscriptions and that’s what they would love for you do at some point. I will never do subscription!
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There are really three different apporaches to maintaining PT:
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Avid is behind the ball especially in regards to the old HDX card. You would of thought with all the hype from Apple and Avid before MP7.1 was released about using 6 old HDX cards we would of seen an updated HDX........nope! Software bugs not getting fixed..... Try Cubase or Nuendo.... |
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Logic works well. Not ideal but a solid tool. Studio One I can't get into for some reason. Screen seems cluttered to me. Could just be a learning curve thing. But truly- whatever you do will work for you. C
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I purchased S1 just to give it a try, but "still" here I am.
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I have stopped paying AVID and will run 2020.5 on Windows for the foreseeable future. Vote with your wallet.
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