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Old 07-12-2018, 07:27 PM
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Default Pro Tools 2018.X on OS X Mavericks 10.9.5?

So is anyone using a version of PT 2018 on Mavericks 10.9.5 that can attest to the performance of this setup?

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Old 07-12-2018, 08:22 PM
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ProTools 2018.x versions use METAL to handle its GUI.

Mavericks does not support (preceded the introduction of) METAL. macOS El Capitan is the first that introduced METAL on the Mac.

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[QUOTE=BScout;2493978.... is the first that introduced METAL on the Mac.[/QUOTE]



Metal on the Mac
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Right on.
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Old 07-13-2018, 05:12 AM
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Default Re: Pro Tools 2018.X on OS X Mavericks 10.9.5?

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ProTools 2018.x versions use METAL to handle its GUI.

Mavericks does not support (preceded the introduction of) METAL. macOS El Capitan is the first that introduced METAL on the Mac.

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So this means then that anyone with a cheesegrater Mac Pro is out of luck for running PT2018 unless they change out their video card? Standard cards that come in those machines don't support metal afaik.
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ProTools 2018.x versions use METAL to handle its GUI.

Mavericks does not support (preceded the introduction of) METAL. macOS El Capitan is the first that introduced METAL on the Mac.

Good luck.
Pro Tools does NOT use Metal. There's a big misconception that since the introduction of Metal in El Capitan, every app somehow "has to" to be using Metal to work under El Capitan/Sierra/HS - not at all. Metal is actually used mostly in games, but for a vast majority of apps out there, including Pro Tools, Metal is almost irrelevant. That's about to change with Mojave though, but that's because Apple chooses so. I bet PT 2018.x will still work under 10.14, and will still not be using Metal in any way shape or form. As frustrating as it may be for Apple, Open GL still has to be part of the OS. And as Jack said above, the stock GPU in the 2010/2012 Mac Pros doesn't support Metal, yet PT runs perfectly fine on these machines, not to mention El Cap, Sierra and HS by the way.
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So this means then that anyone with a cheesegrater Mac Pro is out of luck for running PT2018 unless they change out their video card? Standard cards that come in those machines don't support metal afaik.
I don't think that is what his point was. He was referring to the operating system version, not the GPU. As in if you are on too old of an OS then PT 2018.X will not have proper GPU support, even if you have a metal capable GPU.

I can say that your assumption is wrong. You can run PT 2018.X with a GT120 which is the stock 2009 4,1 cMP GPU. I use that along with a more modern GPU being the RX580

So I would also go back to the earlier comment and say its pretty obvious that PT doesn't require metal supported GPUs when I can run it perfectly fine with a GT120 which def isn't metal capable
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I don't think that is what his point was. He was referring to the operating system version, not the GPU. As in if you are on too old of an OS then PT 2018.X will not have proper GPU support, even if you have a metal capable GPU.

I can say that your assumption is wrong. You can run PT 2018.X with a GT120 which is the stock 2009 4,1 cMP GPU. I use that along with a more modern GPU being the RX580

So I would also go back to the earlier comment and say its pretty obvious that PT doesn't require metal supported GPUs when I can run it perfectly fine with a GT120 which def isn't metal capable
I was going by what BScout wrote. He wrote that PT2018 used metal which was available in El Crapitan & above and going from that that would leave people out who had the stock video card in their cheesegrater. By extension the gpu thus enters the equation.
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Old 07-13-2018, 01:49 PM
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Thanks everyone for your comments, I have a feeling Avid's going to release a new version of PT this month (because they already released MC First 2018.7) so I'm going to wait until that happens and then try my luck and post back.

So after trying it out, PT 2018.4 launches on Mavericks but playing around in it causes it to crash, so it's unusable. I downgraded to 12.8.1 and it works great even though it's not officially supported (12.7.1 last supported Mavericks I believe).
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